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ctp89
02-15-2014, 06:03 PM
I have a 1999 310d lwb hi top it seems to struggle to get past around 60-65 even on motorways I can coax it up to about 70 going downhill

Load is minimal as it is used to transport mountain bikes around the country mostly

I serviced it about 3000 miles ago ( after buying it) and it seems to have made little difference I changed oil air and fuel filters

Is there anything I should look for that would be bringing the power down or is it normal?

Thanks
Charles

ctp89
02-15-2014, 06:05 PM
That's mph by the way

OrioN
02-15-2014, 06:08 PM
That's mph by the way

You able to edit your post, for up to 24hrs.


It could have the speed limiter option, assuming it was available for your model in 1999.

NelsonSprinter
02-16-2014, 01:18 AM
With a 100HP engine it seems like a 'tall & long' would only go that fast, just guessing tho'

ctp89
02-16-2014, 07:06 AM
You able to edit your post, for up to 24hrs.


It could have the speed limiter option, assuming it was available for your model in 1999.

Cheers I will keep that in mind, I will have a look and see if there is an option for a limiter on it.



Nelsonsprinter, I had that thought myself but I thought I would ask as it seems a little slow.

pgr
02-16-2014, 10:47 AM
I had an '84 209d that would certainly go 75 mph all day long (even if it was a dog)!

shortshort
02-16-2014, 11:13 PM
One of those dash info centers or the BT smartphone dongle/app might be useful.

ctp89
02-17-2014, 04:51 AM
One of those dash info centers or the BT smartphone dongle/app might be useful.

How so ? I'm still pretty new to the mercedes tricks and methods

The only digital part of the dash is the odo so there is no computer I can see

Altered Sprinter
02-17-2014, 06:05 AM
lacking power =low boost pressure ecm under battery look for it under the hood.

shortshort
02-17-2014, 07:57 AM
How so ? I'm still pretty new to the mercedes tricks and methods

The only digital part of the dash is the odo so there is no computer I can see

If the van has a diagnostic port they sell devices to read the various sensors. Like boost pressure.

ctp89
02-17-2014, 09:57 AM
If the van has a diagnostic port they sell devices to read the various sensors. Like boost pressure.

Thanks I will have a look into it and see what kind of fitting it is

pgr
02-17-2014, 01:14 PM
Highly doubtfully that this vehicle has an obd port much less a turbo!

ctp89
02-17-2014, 01:32 PM
Highly doubtfully that this vehicle has an obd port much less a turbo!

It has a turbo and I think from what I have read it has an older type fitting for a diagnostic machine ( obviously due to the age) it looks like a round port instead of the more modern "scart" shape I can't look at it for a week or so as I am around 2000 miles away with work

I don't expect as much info as you get from a modern car/computer but it should throw a few codes my way if there's something up

sailquik
02-17-2014, 01:50 PM
ctp89,
There are adapters available that will convert the newer OBD-II connector to the older round OBD connector.
Several members in AUZ/NZ and the UK have used them successfully.
If you are thinking of buying the Scan Gauge II (or similar) as a code reader, to scan you older Sprinter for
DTC's you will most likely be very disappointed.
Generic OBD-II codes do not often apply to Sprinters, so most of the codes you might get would be generic
in nature and may or may not (mostly not) apply to any real DTCs that a Sprinter specific MB type diagnostic
tools might develop for you.
The Scan Gauge II (or similar) can be used as a driving aid, to help you drive your older Sprinter in a manner
that will help to prevent issues that might cause DTC codes.
Roger

ctp89
02-17-2014, 02:01 PM
ctp89,
There are adapters available that will convert the newer OBD-II connector to the older round OBD connector.
Several members in AUZ/NZ and the UK have used them successfully.
If you are thinking of buying the Scan Gauge II (or similar) as a code reader, to scan you older Sprinter for
DTC's you will most likely be very disappointed.
Generic OBD-II codes do not often apply to Sprinters, so most of the codes you might get would be generic
in nature and may or may not (mostly not) apply to any real DTCs that a Sprinter specific MB type diagnostic
tools might develop for you.
The Scan Gauge II (or similar) can be used as a driving aid, to help you drive your older Sprinter in a manner
that will help to prevent issues that might cause DTC codes.
Roger

I think my best option here is to borrow said machine from someone and maybe take a punt on the adaptor as a " just in case, might be worth a try " kind of way

How much is the average to get a stealership to plug it in ? I would guess around 30-40

Dingo
02-17-2014, 10:19 PM
Find an indie Merc who uses genuine Merc star diagnostic & get them to read any codes & remove / raise any speed / rev limiters that are set in the ECU . You should be able to thump along at 85-90 mph all day long with a 310 .

My 312 has topped out into 3 figures ( on a private runway ! ! ! ! ! ! ! honest ) & thats with only 20 BHP more than you .

If you have no limits set , change the fuel filter & drop the fuel tank , remove the sender & clean out the white pot , I have found quite a few early sprinters with what looks like a birds nest in the white pot , blocking off & reducing fuel flow to the filter . NO idea how or where the birds nest comes from

ctp89
02-18-2014, 06:32 AM
Find an indie Merc who uses genuine Merc star diagnostic & get them to read any codes & remove / raise any speed / rev limiters that are set in the ECU . You should be able to thump along at 85-90 mph all day long with a 310 .

My 312 has topped out into 3 figures ( on a private runway ! ! ! ! ! ! ! honest ) & thats with only 20 BHP more than you .

If you have no limits set , change the fuel filter & drop the fuel tank , remove the sender & clean out the white pot , I have found quite a few early sprinters with what looks like a birds nest in the white pot , blocking off & reducing fuel flow to the filter . NO idea how or where the birds nest comes from

That's an interesting thought with the fuel tank I will take it to a garage when I get back to the uk and get them to have a look first though

I am glad I asked now, I though 65-70 was slow for a max speed

FYI the fuel filter was changed 3000 miles ago (and made no noticeable difference then either)

Cheyenne
02-18-2014, 09:42 AM
ctp89,
There are adapters available that will convert the newer OBD-II connector to the older round OBD connector.
Several members in AUZ/NZ and the UK have used them successfully.
If you are thinking of buying the Scan Gauge II (or similar) as a code reader, to scan you older Sprinter for
DTC's you will most likely be very disappointed.
Generic OBD-II codes do not often apply to Sprinters, so most of the codes you might get would be generic
in nature and may or may not (mostly not) apply to any real DTCs that a Sprinter specific MB type diagnostic
tools might develop for you.
The Scan Gauge II (or similar) can be used as a driving aid, to help you drive your older Sprinter in a manner
that will help to prevent issues that might cause DTC codes.
Roger

Chris,

I bought one of these from eBay UK... Link (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-SPRINTER-VW-LT-14-PIN-OBD-ODB2-16-PIN-CAR-DIAGNOSTIC-ADAPTER-CABLE-/250991204203?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item3a703dd76b) and it works great with a ScanGauge ll on my 313CDi so MAY give you some info from your pre-CDi motor.

Worth a punt for 6.50 if you can find soemone with a SG ll to plug into it.

Keith.

Boater
02-18-2014, 01:29 PM
That adapter looks useful - couldn't find anything like that last time I looked, mine you, I was looking to use one of the phone apps with a bluetooth OBD2 connector (also on ebay, similar prices) to monitor live data so gave up when I found out none of them were available for blackberry....

In other news, it seems to be possible to buy genuine carsoft diagnostics from ebay (icarsoft) these days for much less than their own website prices, I haven't upgraded mine yet as my van is some way from needing it.
Don't know if it would be able to reset a limiter - you might still need a dealer or indie to take a look with star.

Dingo
02-19-2014, 09:00 AM
Morning Boater , all well with you ?? .

With regards to these adaptors , yes they work as they only alter which pins are linked to another . your problems arise getting a third party software / hardware combo to speak to the ECU . It is similar to a Glaswegian yapping with a cockney , both speak English , just variations of it with misunderstanding thrown in . For our foreign viewers rpalce the two choices i have given with two contrasting dialects of your choice .

Used these people for leads for other makes , Dave Wilks very helpful & funny
http://www.beatthegarage.com/ and i seem to remember someone using one of these to read the sprinter codes

http://www.beatthegarage.com/product/040_uk_maxiscan_ms509_obdii_diagnostic_code_reader _eobd_/

Hope it helps

Boater
02-19-2014, 11:59 AM
Hi Dingo - alls well in so far as I haven't touched the van all winter, I'm waiting for more clement weather!

Aiming to get it back on the road by the summer, so I've bookmarked those links for future reference :)

Cheers!

PS: I was born in west London, now living just west of Glasgow, I can understand Cockneys and Weegies up to a point. Cockney is more tricky these days, mind you unless you're born in east London you'll never fully understand Cockney!

Dingo
02-19-2014, 12:26 PM
Cock-a-knees , struggle to understand anyone or anything mate . I blame Dick van dyke & eastenders for that problem

Mine has just trundled along all winter no problems & i have been looking at re-furbished Star systems on fleabay , but i do wonder how you can update as you have to buy into Merces dealership base . Anyone can own a system , but not too sure about upgrades . Will speak to my fave indies & ask them how they upgrade as they all use genuine Star kit

Boater
02-19-2014, 05:29 PM
I reckon mine would have trundled along OK, but I still haven't finished the welding and stuff to get it MOTd.... too much on and then the weather turned horrible!

Dingo
02-19-2014, 06:54 PM
OK OK , i will allow you that point . Definately not funny lying in snow / water / mud welding upside down & getting tingly arms .

Still look on the bright side ,,, it's almost SPRING TIME , sunny skys fluffy clouds & warming breezes , oh sorry i was seeing my screen saver

Altered Sprinter
02-20-2014, 06:51 AM
Lots of laughs Spring, next threat "SINK HOLES'' Careful where you park! or if its moved:thinking: from whence last parked:shifty: look directly down, for a holy hole.:dripsarcasm::dripsarcasm:
http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/PA-18869026.jpg

Boater
02-20-2014, 12:35 PM
No worries, it's England that has all the flooding, shouldn't get any sink holes up here on the hard rock of Scotland!

Dingo
02-23-2014, 01:37 PM
Lots of laughs Spring, next threat "SINK HOLES'' Careful where you park! or if its moved:thinking: from whence last parked:shifty: look directly down, for a holy hole.:dripsarcasm::dripsarcasm:
http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/PA-18869026.jpg



If it helps your dry country , i am willing to parcel up & deliver large amounts of surplus to requirement water , one careful owner .

I blame the Jocks , due to all their hills everything has run down hill & ended up in southern England :hmmm: