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Lars1
10-15-2013, 05:54 AM
Does anyone know why Mercedes doesn't offer a block heater for the NCV3? They must know that cold weather starts, especially in extremely cold climates, is hard one the diesel engine. In Montana the temperature can reach -50 fahrenheit.

KALKAI WDB
10-16-2013, 05:42 AM
HZ5. That's why.

http://sprinterguy.wordpress.com/sprinter-van-auxiliary-rear-heating-options/

Mercedes must assume there may not be a 110v outlet within arms length of everywhere a Sprinter is parked at less than 39 degrees F in the world.

The other issue is the rather lengthy time it takes to heat the rather large volume of freezing air inside of a Sprinter using the vehicle's diesel engine in the winter if not using this pre-heat option to heat the cabin. I believe there is a chart in the owner's manual of engine running time required to heat the cabin vs. outside air temp. As far as I can remember, the time chart begins at around 20 minutes.

The Sprinters that participated in the Arctic Drive all had the engine / cabin pre heat option. When one of the drivers forgot to set the timer the previous day for their Sprinter to pre-heat, the vehicle needed to be jump started, then warmed up for an extended period of time most likely about an hour.

Needless to say, running the diesel engine through the night, a block heater, a heated garage, or using a truck with a gasoline engine instead of diesel would have been a much simpler solution than building what is basically an Espar diesel powered oil hot water circulating furnace activated by a timer and or optional remote control into Sprinters as some kind of semi-secret ill explained option.

Tuck5000
10-16-2013, 01:16 PM
I just ordered a wolverine oil pan heater for my 08. I m curious to see how well it heats up, scan gauge should give me a pretty good idea of how well and quick it heats up.

Aqua Puttana
10-16-2013, 01:33 PM
I just ordered a wolverine oil pan heater for my 08. I m curious to see how well it heats up, scan gauge should give me a pretty good idea of how well and quick it heats up.
In my experience you shouldn't be disappointed in the performance of your pad heater. That said, we seldom get down in the minus F temperatures, but when we do I generally plug my pad heater in while the engine is still hot to help to maintain heat.

vic

Trayscott
11-07-2013, 03:27 AM
In my experience you shouldn't be disappointed in the performance of your pad heater. That said, we seldom get down in the minus F temperatures, but when we do I generally plug my pad heater in while the engine is still hot to help to maintain heat.

vic

Hey Vic I am across the pond just west of Detroit. Basic former Ryder truck, no Espar. Are these things able to start with no plug in or espar in occasional near zero temps we get. I have an 08. Plan on a heater of some sort like you spoke of. PS Mom and dad are from N. Tonawanda/Kenmore. Still have family there..Scott

cahaak
11-07-2013, 08:47 AM
If all of your glow plugs are working, you can start down to about 0 F. Once you get below that, you need to preheat, Espar or otherwise. The Espar gets a lot of work on our van in the winter as it is the main kid shuttle. Just pop it on and ready to go in 15 minutes or so.

Chris

Aqua Puttana
11-07-2013, 12:24 PM
Hey Vic I am across the pond just west of Detroit. Basic former Ryder truck, no Espar. Are these things able to start with no plug in or espar in occasional near zero temps we get. I have an 08. Plan on a heater of some sort like you spoke of. PS Mom and dad are from N. Tonawanda/Kenmore. Still have family there..Scott
Scott,
We get to more northern places in MI to visit Tawas Bay and the U.P. occasionally. We were once in the Soo for a funeral in February. I recall -24F in the morning. The coldest temperature I've ever been in by the way. Pre-Sprinter and fortunately my Dodge V8 started for us.

I agree with Cahaak Chris. I would add that based upon winter starting experience when I had some glow plugs out, I'm convinced that my use of Power Service Diesel Kleen in the white jug during winter helps for cold weather starting. I glug it in religiously during winter. I usually forget about it during summer.

That said, a pad heater is fairly cheap and easy to install so if you have the parking spot power capability I would definitely go for it. I plug mine in when we get down to about 5F. For certain at 0F. Assuming a 200 watt heater, it will cost about 50 cents to power over night.

Some more info is here.

http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?p=219302#post219302

http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?p=74458#post74458


vic

mprintz
11-09-2013, 05:20 AM
Hello Lars,

The below link will take you to a document from Sprinter Engineering and Compliance.

http://www.daimlervansupfitterportal.com/en-us/files/en-us/bulletins/block-heater-mock-up.pdf

I have the heater installed on my 2007 Sprinter.
Not satisfied. It may have to do with the location. They mounted it at the bottom of the hose. When heating the warm coolant will rise but since mounted at the bottom I find as most of the hear is going to the radiator.
Should I do it again I would install it up the hose towards the engine block. this way the warm coolant should flow into the engine.

Regards
Martin

wiartonallan
11-29-2013, 02:48 PM
Hi, yesterday I installed a Wolverine pad heater model 16. Very simple installation, way less than 1/2 hour. Last night's temp here was down to 6f. Start-up was instant and I had lots of heat blowing within 3/4 mile of driving (with no idle warm-up). I have an 08 Freightliner with at least one glow plug out.

Wolverine Heater
https://www.wolverineheater.com/category-s/1477.htm

I like it!

Ian

pfflyer
11-29-2013, 05:51 PM
Hi, yesterday I installed a Wolverine pad heater model 16. Very simple installation, way less than 1/2 hour. Last night's temp here was down to 6f. Start-up was instant and I had lots of heat blowing within 3/4 mile of driving (with no idle warm-up). I have an 08 Freightliner with at least one glow plug out.

Wolverine Heater
https://www.wolverineheater.com/category-s/1477.htm

I like it!

Ian
Does it just stick to the oil pan?

hein
11-29-2013, 06:28 PM
I stuck one of these on my oil pan. 250W
Cleaned the surface thoroughly first.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41mNZZDyWbL._SX425_.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I8XDFS