Some discussion;;;;: https://sprinter-source.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1294&highlight=HHOHi, I would like to know if anyone here has tried using a HHO hydrogen generator and if so what kinds of luck you have had with them. Also can anyone tell me if there are any other forum's around where I can find out more info about them good or bad? Thank You.
Guess you missed the injector part.... of the carburetor/injector diagram ?Carburetor? CARBURETOR?!? So ... the hydrogen generator will NOT work with a diesel engine? DANG!
How is it going now? Are you still getting about 14% better mileage? There is an oxygen sensor on the exhaust pipe going down right after the exhaust manifold. Have you needed to put an EFIE unit to adjust the sensor's output to the computer? I have read that diesels do not need these, but I am wondering about the Sprinter engines....I have had mine for quite a while now and is awesome... I have saved about %14 in fuel... If you drive alot it will save alot, if you don't drive that much it might take you a while to get your money out of the system... I think the biggest improvement comes not from the hydrogen as a fuel but the fact that it helps with combustion... http://savefuel.ca/hydrogen/smallproducts.php?id=carproducts is a great place to buy... I know alot of people claim huge fuel saving's like 50-75%, which I don't think is even possible, you can expect 5-15% on our vans... They have a 30 liter system for around $350...
Hmmm.... very similar to my own tests. I did two highway comparison tests (turning the hydrogen generator ON for the first leg and OFF for the second leg of the trip). The first test gave me 14% fuel saving and the second 16% - see my result at www.autofuelsaving.com - I have pictures there too.I am still getting about 15% fuel saving's... I didn't have to change anything on the sprinter... I have about 70k miles with system... Not one issue what so ever... It is only $347, it worth every penny...
I believe in the Hydrogen generators in principle. What I'm having is a hard time "seeing" is,I don't think there is anything we can do... Maybe getting another system, so you have 2 systems... It would be cool to get another 15%, but I don't think it would give us that much...
Indeed - production at one rate is an challenge - the options areI believe in the Hydrogen generators in principle. What I'm having is a hard time "seeing" is,
lets say a idle the generator is making enough gas to burn. If I read the site about them, they work at a constant voltage. so no matter what the demand the system pumps out the same amount.
As the air flow increases in the air intake of the engine, at one point the demand far exceeds the gas produced in this passive system.
Or this system produces far in excess gas at idle and at speed "normalizes...
So you have to have a variable mechanism to produce enough gas to run at Highway speeds.
Or.. you have to have a system that stores the gas and delivers it on demand. Course this could be dangerous as you now are working with a mixture of pressurized hydrogen and oxygen.
So now instead of a passive system, we have a bulkier system. Producing, storing, and delivering.
I'm not a rocket scientist but I met one once.......
I'd be afraid to put that much in the diesel engine.And still it goes on . .
I checked out all the ones I could find and this one had the best results of all of them.
Here is the big daddy all ready to go guys - a FULL 50% fuel savings! HUGE output! If you are gonna do it - do it right I always say:
Here is the link:
http://gethydropower.com/products_kong.html
Oh, and when you get there make sure you click the "SCIENCE" link at the far right bottom so you can see the real science behind the operation to make sure it's based on sound principles.
Looks like the fuel crisis has been solved! Can't wait to get one.
So, the lack of the "Science" page may just be as posted, unfinished, while the product MAY have a foundation in good science. What is kinda whacky about this is the introduction of Hydrazine and Nitrates. Would nitrates not increase NOx emissions? Would that be good for an engine? Maybe better than corrosive hydrazine! Caveat emptor!How do your units work?
Our Electrolyzers separate oxygen, hydrogen, hydrazine and nitrate from a proprietary electrolyte solution by using power generated by your alternator. A portion of this gas is commonly referred to as Browns gas.[cool, it's not the hydrogen!]
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How does the gas get into my engine?
The gas is drawn into your engine under a vacuum. This provides a constant supply of hydrogen and oxygen to enhance combustion.[cool - enhance combustion, not run on hydrogen]
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How does "Browns Gas" provide fuel savings?
The primary benefit of our technology is to the combustion process inside your engine. This is accomplished through the addition of oxygen, hydrogen, Hydrazine and Nitrate which enables a more thorough burn of the petroleum. [right-on! more thorough burn of petroleum, not running on hydrogen]. In effect, we are replacing a small percentage of normal atmosphere with a gaseous fuel.
. . Once your engine management system adjusts to the new environment, the injectors will be instructed to deliver less petroleum to the engine.[ Maybe an oxygen sensor thing?]