PDA

View Full Version : About to buy a 500,000 mile 04.....and last words of wisdom?


Cole
09-30-2013, 02:46 PM
I've lurked here for quite awhile. Read nearly everything I can on the common, not so common issues.

Long story short I'm a hard core gear head, have 11 vehicles. Many build/restored/saved. :idunno:

I've got a Eurovan GLS that I converted to a Poptop, new crate motor, custom bits.

Been craving a Sprinter to build and found a cheap project worth one. Minor dings, and apparently caught up on all its maintenance .

(158" single wheel btw)

shortshort
09-30-2013, 03:09 PM
Good luck and please share what you learn.

david_42
09-30-2013, 03:20 PM
What are you planning on building it into?

Cole
09-30-2013, 03:46 PM
Family adventure van. Similar to "Outside Vans" creations.

Cole
09-30-2013, 04:07 PM
Basically trading my Dodge V10 pickup for it. (225k on the truck)

riskydnb
09-30-2013, 04:43 PM
How much are you paying? And heres my phone number for parts cause I think your gonna need it...760-622-0148 -Randy

Cole
09-30-2013, 04:47 PM
How much are you paying? And heres my phone number for parts cause I think your gonna need it...760-622-0148 -Randy


Bet you're a hit with the ladies! :laughing:

I'll call someone else for parts if all your interactions are so friendly.:thumbup:

ECU
09-30-2013, 05:35 PM
Hey, don't take it personal. You should check what the dealer charges for the 500,000 service!

Cole
09-30-2013, 06:09 PM
I didn't take your lack of reading/listening/introduction/benefit statement personal.

Why would I call some stranger for parts? Especially when he/she asks questions that have already been answered and provides no explanation or reasoning what so ever on why someone would want to buy parts from them!?

Throttlejockey
09-30-2013, 08:02 PM
Check it for black death before buying.

Cole
09-30-2013, 08:11 PM
Check it for black death before buying.

The one trick is that this transaction is over a distance. So I have to rely on pictures.


I've asked for a better (closer/clearer) image of the injector area to check for this.

Right now this is the only image I have kinda showing the area.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/10025739734_2c5f2b1db4_o_d.jpg

Throttlejockey
09-30-2013, 08:25 PM
Tell him to remove the cover so you can see under it.That's the only way to tell. Also ask if there's any check engine/warning lights on.

Cole
09-30-2013, 08:59 PM
Tell him to remove the cover so you can see under it.That's the only way to tell. Also ask if there's any check engine/warning lights on.


Thanks for the tip on the cover removal. :thumbup:


Van currently has a check engine light for an O2 sensor.

shortshort
09-30-2013, 09:53 PM
:popcorn:

Cole
09-30-2013, 09:54 PM
:popcorn:


Yer just here to watch my pain aren't you:tongue:

MillionMileSprinter
09-30-2013, 10:45 PM
For a almost 10 year old vehicle with 500K miles, that's a pretty clean engine bay. At least the photo makes it look clean.
Then again, my '02 with only 75K miles on it was dirtier than my '06 with 345K miles on it. But at least a clean engine bay is a sign that someone was probably taking care of it.
With my 06 with 345K miles the parking brakes were basically rust. They are located INSIDE the rear hub. Hint- take the rear disk off and look inside. You will find the drum parking brakes.
I also dealt with high temps which weren't a problem under normal circumstances, but when I pulled our 4500# travel trailer, it ran WAY high.
I ended up pulling off the bumper and grill and carefully cleaning out the radiator, tranny cooler, intercooler and A/C condenser. Ran much cooler after that. Lots of miles means lots of opportunities for that to get filled up with gunk and leaves.
You can also do the injector test to make sure your injectors are working well and not worn out. The test is a simple one and it's at the bottom of my signature.
Welcome to the club! I came to Sprinters from an '00 Eurovan MV. We grew too big for the Eurovan.

shortshort
09-30-2013, 11:23 PM
Yer just here to watch my pain aren't you:tongue:

Who doesn't enjoy a good show? :cheers:

Cole
09-30-2013, 11:55 PM
For a almost 10 year old vehicle with 500K miles, that's a pretty clean engine bay. At least the photo makes it look clean.
Then again, my '02 with only 75K miles on it was dirtier than my '06 with 345K miles on it. But at least a clean engine bay is a sign that someone was probably taking care of it.
With my 06 with 345K miles the parking brakes were basically rust. They are located INSIDE the rear hub. Hint- take the rear disk off and look inside. You will find the drum parking brakes.
I also dealt with high temps which weren't a problem under normal circumstances, but when I pulled our 4500# travel trailer, it ran WAY high.
I ended up pulling off the bumper and grill and carefully cleaning out the radiator, tranny cooler, intercooler and A/C condenser. Ran much cooler after that. Lots of miles means lots of opportunities for that to get filled up with gunk and leaves.
You can also do the injector test to make sure your injectors are working well and not worn out. The test is a simple one and it's at the bottom of my signature.
Welcome to the club! I came to Sprinters from an '00 Eurovan MV. We grew too big for the Eurovan.


Thanks. :thumbup:

I've owned several high mileage vehicles, and honestly, they usually cost less to own. To get to the high mileage they have usually been maintained. The defective parts have been replaced.

Sometimes I feel its worth it to get a discount on the purchase and put that money towards updated parts than pay a premium for half warn parts. Guess we will see with this one.

In any case I would be trading my Dodge v10 with 225k for it.

This will be the 14th German vehicle I've had but my first diesel:crazy:(both part of the reason I want it:wtf::crazy:)

riskydnb
10-01-2013, 01:20 AM
I didn't take your lack of reading/listening/introduction/benefit statement personal.

Why would I call some stranger for parts? Especially when he/she asks questions that have already been answered and provides no explanation or reasoning what so ever on why someone would want to buy parts from them!?

Sorry Cole it was just a joke...my explanation of why you should buy parts from me is cause im, in most cases, cheaper than anyone else selling high quality OEM German parts online. Check my ebay listings and threads on parts for sale on this forum.

Cole
10-01-2013, 05:43 PM
I'll post the pics I have. I asked for some more. The guy is pretty good about my requests. Sent me over 40 pictures so far.

I asked him to remove the cover this morning, but got these from last nights request.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2830/10041119756_ffbc335de7_b_d.jpg

Picture posting will be a bit sporadic. I'm waiting in line to get the stupid etest done on my 951. Got 86ed from the last test station this morning.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/10041096825_b7fbefdb92_b_d.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7364/10041092825_e225da1b1b_b_d.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5485/10025739044_73268f3d56_o_d.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/10025729824_bbd5ca0f9f_o_d.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3672/10025851973_523368621c_o_d.jpg

Cole
10-01-2013, 07:49 PM
Thoughts?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7289/10042927716_bfb541c6be_b.jpg

rbrennick
10-01-2013, 08:36 PM
Hi Cole,
Looks to me like #1 and #2 had it (front to back), judging by remnants of the black gook, cooked and broken/gone injector connectors...
Replaced two injectors, chipped out and cleaned the mess as good as possible, and put it back together. The harness might cause pain later (they're not that expensive),
but if it's not leaking from #1 thru #5, the repair is good.
FWIW, looks like an expeditor van, which means all freeway miles, unlike the beat FedEx ones. I have 523k on my long and tall 2004- orig. engine and turbo- runs great- uses 1/2 qt every 10,000; 2nd trans and 2nd rear end in it.
"The profit is made at the purchase," as they say. :)
Good luck, Rich

Cole
10-01-2013, 11:36 PM
Hi Cole,
Looks to me like #1 and #2 had it (front to back), judging by remnants of the black gook, cooked and broken/gone injector connectors...
Replaced two injectors, chipped out and cleaned the mess as good as possible, and put it back together. The harness might cause pain later (they're not that expensive),
but if it's not leaking from #1 thru #5, the repair is good.
FWIW, looks like an expeditor van, which means all freeway miles, unlike the beat FedEx ones. I have 523k on my long and tall 2004- orig. engine and turbo- runs great- uses 1/2 qt every 10,000; 2nd trans and 2nd rear end in it.
"The profit is made at the purchase," as they say. :)
Good luck, Rich

Hey, thanks, and good catch! I was too busy posting from my car while waiting for the stupid etest that I didn't notice that those two injectors are obviously newer.

Sounds like the problem has been addressed for the moment. (Understanding that it could come back again)

Throttlejockey
10-02-2013, 02:32 AM
I was going to say the same thing. Looks like there is still some black death on the outside.

Cole
10-08-2013, 12:51 PM
Thanks for all the input guys. I always like to know how a deal did or didn't work out. So here is the update. The deal fell through. The guy with the 500k Sprinter changed his mind and decided my truck wasn't worth the trade. Kinda glad he backed out. Wasn't quite feeling it myself..

Fwiw, he is asking $6500 for the van.:lol: (IMO)


And fwiw, here was the truck I had up for trade.....still looking for a decent sprinter to play with as a project.



http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3693/9612114980_f0ffde4396_b_d.jpg

MillionMileSprinter
10-08-2013, 01:49 PM
For the sake of comparison, I bought an '06 with 340K miles on it, cargo van with windows. No black death, engine/tranny/drivetrain/everything in great condition for 6K$. I've since replaced the parking/emergency brake pads, cleaned out the radiators and replaced the pulley tensioner. And charged the A/C.
I think 6500$ for a van with 500K+ miles with obvious black death is a bit steep.
Just my 2 cents.
<< it's the maroon/burgundy van with the grey paint splash graphics

Cole
10-08-2013, 01:52 PM
I agree, it was steep.

Personally I think 90% of these vans are way over priced. I just saw one listed with 725k on it for $9k:thinking:

Cole
10-08-2013, 02:23 PM
Only 298k miles on this 02 with body damage and a steal at $18.9k:crazy:


http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/3967789086.html

MillionMileSprinter
10-08-2013, 04:39 PM
Only 298k miles on this 02 with body damage and a steal at $18.9k:crazy:


http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/3967789086.html

Subtract 10K$ and it would be an OK starting point for a price.
That "body damage" that you mention is pretty standard for a cargo truck. I personally wouldn't call it body damage, just normal wear and tear. Both my Sprinters had that kind of damage when I bought them.
Looks like a clean one, at least.
Are you in VA? If so, I would suggest looking outside your region. It seems that in the South, vans are priced a bit higher than normal. At least that's been my experience.
Just look a few times a day on C-list and you'll know a good one when you see it. Jump on it immediately. Have the cash in hand in case it's a weekend and the bank is closed.
Good luck!

Cole
10-08-2013, 05:19 PM
Body damage being common doesn't mean it shouldn't be factored into the cost.

MillionMileSprinter
10-08-2013, 06:04 PM
Body damage being common doesn't mean it shouldn't be factored into the cost.

You're a tougher negotiator than I am. :bow:

Cole
10-08-2013, 08:15 PM
You're a tougher negotiator than I am. :bow:

Well, that can't be true.....you have more Sprinters than I do:clapping:

EZoilburner
10-09-2013, 07:12 PM
It took Me a few months to find mine, I'm in MD and drove all the way to Philly to get it. Takes time to find the right one and at 500k miles it really is high asking $6500 for it. Having a sprinter friendly scanner available before when negotiating the price is a huge advantage.