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mtnwater
09-26-2013, 11:40 PM
I'm coming off a long relationship with a VW syncro camper and looking to build my own sprinter-based camper. I've been led to believe the T1N is a better choice than the newer NCV platform. I've been eyeing craigslist for some time and am ready to start contacting owners and looking at vans. Wondering if there are any specific things to check, questions to ask, or things to watch out for and would welcome any suggestions. Please excuse me if I've overlooked an obvious resource that addresses this question.

Ideally, I'd like to pick up an '05-06 140 high roof with a couple windows that has less than 100k miles on it. What should I expect to pay for something like that in CA?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and patience with my newbie perspective!

mtnwater
09-27-2013, 12:13 AM
answering my own question:
http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5174&highlight=tips+buying

pfflyer
09-27-2013, 12:26 AM
Welcome to the forum. T1N over NCV is more preference than problems except all the emission crap on the newer models. T1N better fuel economy for sure but the 6 cylinder does have a little more pep. I averaged 23-24mpg (best 27 all highway) in my 02 and my 2013 20.5mpg but is getting better with every fill-up (<9k miles currently). Search for "buying tips" in the blue bar above for a good checklist either way you go. Make sure things like key fob and other accessories work the way they should. I look in Craig's list from time to time and cant recall one that old less than 100k in a while but in excellent condition with <100k in GA would sell low to mid teens upper teens max. Good luck in your search and post some pictures when you get one.

surlyoldbill
09-27-2013, 01:10 AM
I've seen some T1N 140's for around $10-12k with under 150k miles.
Depending on how they were driven and maintained, 150k might be less than their expected life before nickel and diming you.
I contend that employee driven vehicles are beat to sh*t, and I wouldn't get a fleet vehicle even though they are regularly serviced.
Look for an owner-driven van, ask how many miles they get on their tires. If they get less than 50k on a set, they are driving it pretty hard.

In my opinion, the T1N is a better value for the dollar than an NCV3.

mtnwater
09-27-2013, 03:03 AM
Thanks all for the feedback. This van is topping my list right now, but price seems a bit high...
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/4089635364.html

MillionMileSprinter
09-27-2013, 03:12 AM
Yes, that's a looker all right. But the price is a bit high. I would advise you to keep looking. As long as you aren't in too much of a hurry, a good van at a good price will come along. I just bought an '06 with 345,000 miles on it. (the maroon van in my avitar). I added seats in the back, a headliner and some speakers. This summer it towed a 4500# travel trailer all over the North East US. Just me and the wife... and our 7 kids. NO PROBLEMS with the van. Don't get stuck on the "low mile syndrome". These vans seem to blow that commonly held belief out of the water.
Welcome to the forum. I also come from a VW van background.
Good luck.

surlyoldbill
09-27-2013, 03:41 AM
For reference, I bought my van in 2006 with 20k miles for $25k.

pacman_34
09-27-2013, 05:14 AM
You can find one like that for 16k.

mtnwater
09-27-2013, 05:19 AM
You can find one like that for 16k.

I hope you're right. It does seem high, but I would happily pay $18k for it. I'm not in a great rush, so I suppose I'll pass for now. Really appreciate the helpful posts - y'all let me know if you stumble upon a nice T1N with low miles for a reasonable price!:thumbup:

surlyoldbill
09-27-2013, 02:39 PM
I checked Ebay, craigslist (multicity search engine), yahooautos and trucktraderonline every time I got on the computer, 4-5x a day. I found my van on trucktrader after almost 6 months of watching, it had been up only 30 minutes before I saw it and called to say SOLD!

Happy hunting

surlyoldbill
09-27-2013, 02:47 PM
Oh, you probably already know that the passenger versions come with all the bells and whistles standard (power, ABS, ASR, cruise, fog lamps, etc.)
Cargo versions vary due to options ordered at time of first sale.

surlyoldbill
09-27-2013, 03:53 PM
This is a very good deal:
http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28896

mtnwater
09-27-2013, 04:24 PM
Agree that is a nice looking van for the price. If it had a high roof I'd be on my way to Ohio.
Been drooling over this listing this morning: http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4093223495.html
Waaay out of my price range, but a cool looking van!

pfflyer
09-27-2013, 09:45 PM
I hope you're right. It does seem high, but I would happily pay $18k for it. I'm not in a great rush, so I suppose I'll pass for now. Really appreciate the helpful posts - y'all let me know if you stumble upon a nice T1N with low miles for a reasonable price!:thumbup:

Wouldn't hurt to make the person a offer.

mtnwater
09-28-2013, 03:49 AM
Wouldn't hurt to make the person a offer.

Funny you mention that, because that's exactly what I (very politely) did. The seller informed me that 5 people had looked at the van in the past two days and he is in negotiations with two different parties for purchase at the asking price. Who ever comes up with the $$ first gets the van, apparently. Good to know that clean vans like that one are selling for $20k in CA.... Might have to travel for a better deal.