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Something to look at now. Just by the pictures of the outside, I'm already interested.
http://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transit/2014/
http://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transit/2014/
I am glad to see the diesel option, that is interesting.Something to look at now. Just by the pictures of the outside, I'm already interested.
http://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transit/2014/
Probably some clever bean counter thinking Americans would hate the diesel in that size van?The passenger 130 does not have the diesel, but the passenger 148 does. Why would they do that?
Any site that requires you to allow facebook before it will load properly, is suspect.Probably some clever bean counter thinking Americans would hate the diesel in that size van?
Im not so sure about the mileage difference.well in April I'm going to visit NY auto show!!! and I'm going to try talking to somebody from ford representative if its true about no diesel engine in extended passenger van!!! that passenger extended van would be perfect for tour companies,airport shuttle or limo van and what they all want first is fuel economy!!! that v6 eco boost is good motor but can't never match diesel motor fuel economy!!! i still hope its web site mistake about no DIESEL motor in extended passenger van)))
its nice but i will be doing a lot of city driving so diesel is my only option!!! and i don't see the dual wheels option in ford web site... i try to email ford but web site set its under going some updates so email is off... i have time on my hands so i will just wait and see what will be available in near future!!! i look at the fiat ducato/ram promaster well its front wheel drive and its ugly too))) and i don't see passenger version of that van!!! anyway if i don't find anything there will be 2014 sprinter with 6cyl diesel and 7 speed transmission!!! and it will be my selection if ford will not offer diesel on extended passenger wheel base transit van!!!Im not so sure about the mileage difference.
Its true the ecobosst wont match the economy of an older sprinter, but its quite possible it may match a newer Sprinter and produce more power and torque while doing it.
Ive spent many a mile in an Ecoboost equipped F150 Supercrewcab medium bed. That engine and its 6 speed are magic.
The Sprinter power curve is no match the ecoboost, it makes around 400ft lb at about 2K.
Watch that engine pull my 7000 pound load up a hill in 105 Degree heat and altitude- in 6th gear sub 2000RPM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfCEO6ipltA
Love the sprinter- dont discount the ecoboost so quickly.
Unce Dave
I have experience with two different models and have towed and cruised with them about 2-3K miles each (I have generous friends who borrowed my trucks)It is questionable that a current design Sprinter diesel with all its emmission add ons and fluids has any cost operational cost advantages over a similiar gas engined vehicle. At this point it is the only vehicle available in that style vehicle so it does not have any competition. When similiar gas engined vehicles become available it will be interesting to do a spreadsheet for a comparison. I suspect that the gas engine will have a lower ownership cost. When the initial cost and real world mileage are known on a gas vehicle, the spreadsheet can be done.
If the Sprinter costs $10,000 more at purchase and continues to have extremely high major parts replacement costs, the comparison should be interesting.
For my use as a travel van a gas engine domestic built van would probably be a better choice. It can be serviced at more locations and replacement parts would be less. I could also idle it to charge the house battery. Fear of $8,000 transmission and $20,000 engine replacements would be eliminated.
The next year should bring some clarity to the question.
UD: What fuel mileage have you experienced with the EcoBoost in the F 150?
it is true!!! about all this i know ford has problems with that engine and the main problem somebody told me that it is moisture building up inside turbos...One of several from any F150 forum:
Truck: 2011 F-150 Eco-Boost 4x4
Gentlemen: I've have a 2011 Ford F-150 Crew Cab with the Eco-Boost motor & it is TERRIBLE! I've got loss of power, terrible mileage like 8 to 12 around town and no better than 16-17 on the road, if I keep it below 55-60 mph!
My wife and I were ALMOST KILLED TWICE NOW WHEN TRYING TO PASS A SLOWER VEHICLE AND THE FORDS ECO-BOOST MOTOR LOST POWER AND WE HAD TO PULL OVER TO AVOID A COLLISION! FORD is playing with our families and our lives with this defective engine & product and they will do nothing but play the WAITING GAME UNTIL YOUR WARRANTY HAS EXPIRED AND THEN IT'S TOUGH s**t FOR YOU!
(I will be using capitol letters a lot and I am not shouting at you!)
I've taken the truck to the dealer 4 times now and each time I HAVE TO SHOW THEM THE TSB'S TO GET SOMETHING DONE! The Ford Dealer says the motor is so NEW that they have no experience on working on it! FORD has produced a real Problem Engine and has lied to the American Public about how wonderful the ECO-BOOST motor is! We need to file "CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT" & SUE THE LIVING "SH-T" out of FORD MOTER CORP. for producing an engine with Major problems that even their Engineering staff can't fix or even knows how to fix!
I further suggest that all FORD ECO-BOOST owners start really getting vocal at their Ford Dealers and contact the Ford Consumer/Customer Service line and complain, complain, complain! Also write letters to both the Ford Customer Service, Ford's Legal Dept. and contact all the Consumer Protection agencies to see if we all can put more pressure on Ford to finally fix the problems or force them to do a full RECALL!
IF FORD CAN'T FIX ALL THE PROBLEMS THEN BUY ALL THESE DEFECTIVE TRUCKS BACK AND LET FORD DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS! FORD IS USING THE PUBLIC AS THEIR RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT DEPT. AND EVEN THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS! FORD, ALSO KEEPS THROWING TSB'S AT THE PROBLEMS AND NOTHING IS REALLY GETTING FIXED FOR CORRECTED!
BEWARE THAT FORD IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THESE FORUMS AND WILL POST COMMENTS FROM WHAT LOOKS LIKE HAPPY HAPPY ECO-BOOST OWNERS! THIS ALSO IS TOTAL BS!