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NelsonSprinter
03-17-2013, 10:34 PM
Pirrelli has the Scorpion ATR in size LT235/75R15-D 110 8Ply 2335 lb load rating for under $200 installed .Made in Brasil, the 29 inch diameter is taller than stock 27.4" OEM 225/70R15, and need mudflap removal on 2002-2003s, & is available at TireRack http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Scorpion+ATR&partnum=375SR5SCORATR&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
and OK TIRE Canada
and PMC Tire Canada http://truck-tires.pmctire.com/enr/pirelli-scorpion-atr-lt235-75r15-rb-d-8-ply-110-107s.tire

NelsonSprinter
03-17-2013, 11:02 PM
Nokian has the Rotiiva AT in LT235/75R15-E 116 2800# load rating , 65,000 km warranty with 700AA UTQG, for summer on & off road use, and snow winter use, for about $250 ea installed at Kal Tire https://shop.kaltire.com/tiresdetails1/t,ireid/5895/ , made in Finland

NelsonSprinter
03-17-2013, 11:46 PM
As well as the usual suspects in OEM size LT225/70R15-D 112:
Continental Vanco2 OR 4SEASON http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?width=225%2F&ratio=70&diameter=15
NOKIAN HAKKA C-cargo winter , NOKIAN WR C- cargo winter&summer https://shop.kaltire.com/tiresdetails1/tireid/2946/
GOODYEAR CARGO G26 http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Cargo+G26&partnum=27R5G26

AND THE CHEAPEST TIRES THAT I'VE FOUND THAT I WOULDN'T PUT ON MY VAN
HERCULES POWER CV http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hercules-Power-CV-Tire-s-225-70R15-225-70-15-2257015-70R-R15-/150993233307?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Section+Width%3A225%7CAspect+Ratio%3A70%7CRim +Diameter%3A15&vxp=mtr&hash=item2327e5e59b

AND ACHILLES MULTIVAN http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=8336618.135.1357&Cookie=pricegrabber&typ=D-112269&ranzahl=4&Breite=225&Quer=70&Felge=15&weiter=0&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=15&Transport=P&dsco=135&LoadRange=Load Range D

Boater
03-18-2013, 12:28 PM
How come US tire companies make export tyres in OEM size (225/70R15) and load rating (112/110) but don't supply them to their home market?

Uniroyal has apparantly been a US tyre manufacturer since 1892 and I just fitted a set of their Rainmax 2 tyres to my T1N but they don't seem to sell that tyre in the US. You guys really are getting cheated, I'll bet a bunch more of the tyres available here are made by US companies (although who knows where they are manufactured these days). Seems wrong to me!

I bought them from Delticom's UK website fitted to steel wheels, from a wide choice of suitably rated tyres - Nelsons link to the Delticom North America website reveals they don't stock that size at all......
You guys should lobby Delticom to start offering more choice for T1Ns - they are clearly moving tyres all round the world all the time, how hard can it be to let you order from other markets albeit with a longer delivery time?

autostaretx
03-18-2013, 08:13 PM
(although who knows where they are manufactured these days)
That information can be gleaned from the numbers and codes molded into the sidewalls...
In fact, for sold-in-US tires, it should simply say "Made in _________"

Uniroyal is now a division of Continental. cf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tire_companies

--dick

Boater
03-19-2013, 06:25 PM
Except that Uniroyal (North America) seems to be a division of Michelin....
Gotta love global business!

A.Hayes
03-20-2013, 08:11 PM
I see the winters mentioned above, but I have the summer version of the Nokian Hakka C Cargos on mine (stock size & rating). Same tire without studs I guess?

NelsonSprinter
10-20-2013, 10:54 PM
Another cheap 15" tire has arrived from China to Canada,
Minerva Transporter LT225/70R15 112R
http://tires.pmctire.com/ent/minerva-transporter-lt-van-225-70r15-6pl-112r.tire
although I doubt it would be strong enough, and European reviews are not glowing

NelsonSprinter
10-23-2014, 06:02 PM
Has anyone used Hercules Power CV tires in LT225/70R15D and what did you think of them?
http://truck-tires.pmctire.com/enr/hercules-power-cv-lt225-70r15-112-110r-d-8.tire

seabiscuit
10-25-2014, 01:32 AM
First of all a big thank you to Nelson Sprinter and the all info he has been sharing regarding 15" tires.

My Nokian tires ran out their life and I searched hard for new tires. I bought Michelin LTX MS2 from tire rack to be installed by their suggested installer. The installer, a big reputable company, would not install them because they are not C rated. They would not risk liability issues. Sum motors suggested they would install Hookian. But I found they are not C rated. My driver's side tire chart specs 225/70R15C. Meaning it is C rated. They would install a C, D or E rated tire but nothing else.

The installer said that if I had shimmed up the axles for 16" tires they would not install 16" tires because they do not meet the written vehicle specs. The only all season tires I found to meet all specs, cargo van means weight, were Nokian and Vredestein. How do '02 - '06 sprinter owners with shimmed up 16" wheels get their tires installed?

Also, fwiw, Nokian is coming out with a new tread design in 2015 for the 225/70R15C.

NelsonSprinter
10-25-2014, 01:53 AM
My driver's side tire chart specs 225/70R15C. Meaning it is C rated. They would install a C, D or E rated tire but nothing else.


Actually 22570R15C are not C load rated they are 112D load rated 8ply. The C stands for European CARGO. NAmerican C is 6ply and not recommended for Sprinters, but might be workable if someone will install them AND you never load 500lbs more than empty in your van AND you never get stopped by the police or vehicle safety inspections

seabiscuit
10-25-2014, 09:37 PM
Yeah this adds to the confusion. Goodyear installers was sure that it was C rated. Where could I find this info written down? Do the 16" wheel owners alter the spec info or do they find a friend to install the tires, I wonder?

NelsonSprinter
10-25-2014, 11:56 PM
Yeah this adds to the confusion. Goodyear installers was sure that it was C rated. Where could I find this info written down? Do the 16" wheel owners alter the spec info or do they find a friend to install the tires, I wonder?
Small independent garages/ tire shops are less picky about what gets mounted.
What tire brand, model ,size, did you get exactly?

sailquik
10-26-2014, 01:22 AM
seabiscuit,
As Nelson Sprinter has suggested, the "C" at the end of the tire spec (Euro tires, like the original 195/70R15C OEM Continental Vanco Four Seasons) stands for "Cargo" or "Commercial".
It has nothing to do with the weight carrying capacity of the tire (like Load Range A/B/C)
Sprinters need the => 112 weight rating to handle a fully loaded Sprinter Van.
If you go by the Load Range (not a very good system of measurement) then you need "D" or "E".
Also the 8 ply rating does not mean there are actually "8" plies in the construction of the tire.
Most are 2 ply side walls and 4 ply treads, even though they meet the "112 or greater" and the Euro "C" (Cargo or Commercial) specifications.
For my $$....unless you are looking for a pure winter tire, just get the Michelin LTX MS2's.
As far as "shimmed" 16" wheels.....where did you come up with that?
The 6 lug 16" wheels for the later Sprinters can be backfit to any 2500 Sprinter with 6 lug bolts.
The 6 lug 16" 3500 (Dual Rear Wheels) for 2007 and later NCV3 Sprinters will fit your early (2002-2006) Sprinter perfectly, but you
need to change to the later style captive washer lug nuts. The 3500's are all "hub centric" and do not need the tapered lug holes and
the tapered lock washers used on the early (2002-2006) T1N 3500's.
Hope this helps,
Roger

seabiscuit
10-26-2014, 07:15 PM
Nelson, i got the Nokian WRC Cargo 225/70R15 C 112/110 S, all season tires. Nokian rep in Vermont said Nokian has a new 15 inch model for Sprinters coming out next year and that is why it was hard to find any this year.

Sailquick, I was told by Sprinter or thought I read here, I would have to shimm the axle to make the 16" tires run properly. I did buy the Michelin LTXMS2 and Goodyear would not install them. I had to return them. Goodyear admitted they don't have an all season cargo tire to fit the Sprinter. They weren't trying to sell tires they were worried about liability.

I have 5 lugnut wheels. Are you saying the six lugnut hub can be put onto my axle?
Goodyear said they would not mount 16 inch tires because they don't meet the spec written on the door.

Thanks to both for your input.

derekhski
10-27-2014, 05:28 PM
Pirrelli has the Scorpion ATR in size LT235/75R15-D 110 8Ply 2335 lb load rating for under $200 installed .Made in Brasil, the 29 inch diameter is taller than stock 27.4" OEM 225/70R15, and need mudflap removal on 2002-2003s, & is available at TireRack http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Scorpion+ATR&partnum=375SR5SCORATR&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
and OK TIRE Canada
and PMC Tire Canada http://truck-tires.pmctire.com/enr/pirelli-scorpion-atr-lt235-75r15-rb-d-8-ply-110-107s.tire

Nelson, You are running the Rotiiva's? I think they are listed in your info, that you run a set. What do you think of them?

NelsonSprinter
10-27-2014, 07:36 PM
Nelson, You are running the Rotiiva's? I think they are listed in your info, that you run a set. What do you think of them?

Yes I like them, year round possible, wet-dry-snow, dirt road, quiet, low rolling resistant, may last 50k km, and a higher weight capacity than any other tire in this size LT235/75R15E

SUPSER
11-06-2014, 03:37 AM
I just put on my second set of Hakka C Nokian. I paid under 800 for them mounted, balanced, drive out price at Tire Factory. Last set gave me almost 70,000 miles and I am not big on rotating them but they did seem to wear evenly. 225/70/15c. Found this vender but they are nowhere to be found around here. http://www.powerkingtires.com/Tires/Highway/Light%20Van%20Radial/979
My 2 cents

NelsonSprinter
10-04-2015, 04:45 PM
FWIW I just tried running with smaller tires 225/70R15 on front, with taller 235/75R15 on rear and there was NO ASR traction control interference at all with this arrangement ( partial changeover for winter before I had to go) even at 70MPH. It appears the rears are spinning slower than the fronts and the ECU knows to apply ASR only when the rears are spinning faster , so getting just 2 of the larger 235/75R15Es for the rears are possible without the hissyfit !

seabiscuit
11-11-2016, 11:58 PM
Is the passenger side rear wheel considered the drive side?
My tires are wearing unevenly. They are directional and have been rotated every 5000 miles. Pass side at 3/32 tread left, the other three tires at 7/32 tread left. I want to put off buying a new set for as long as possible. Would it make sense that if I exchanged the pass rear tire with the driver side rear tire, I'd prolong the tire life by much?

Cheyenne
11-12-2016, 08:07 AM
Is the passenger side rear wheel considered the drive side?

No. Both sides should drive equally.


My tires are wearing unevenly. They are directional and have been rotated every 5000 miles. Pass side at 3/32 tread left, the other three tires at 7/32 tread left.

It sounds like your rear axle is out of alignment. Check Dennis' comments on sheared location lugs to road springs (Tappers and Shunters Club).

Keith.

NelsonSprinter
05-20-2017, 11:25 PM
Another option in the LT235/75R15D 110 8ply is a Delinte AT , Delinte Bandit AT DX10 made in China, with year round use/winter and light off-roading
as seen here
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/4-Delinte-Bandit-AT-DX10-LT235-75R15-110-107S-D-8-All-Terrain-Tires-/182571941827?hash=item2a8222bfc3:g:ChsAAOSwtGlZFll O&vxp=mtr

zurvan7
09-25-2017, 02:49 AM
I have 03 Fr.Sprinter 2500 118"wb 15"wheels. How does the Nokian Rotiiva AT LT235/75R15 E fits in the spare tire cage? Does it fit? Thank you

NelsonSprinter
09-26-2017, 11:48 PM
I have 03 Fr.Sprinter 2500 118"wb 15"wheels. How does the Nokian Rotiiva AT LT235/75R15 E fits in the spare tire cage? Does it fit? Thank you

It does not fit unless almost deflated, airpump needed

zurvan7
09-27-2017, 10:25 PM
Thank you

seabiscuit
10-18-2017, 02:15 AM
Update: The second set of Nokian tires I had on my truck lasted 42,000 miles/ 3.5 years. I looked for new 15" tires to find there are less choices now then 4 years ago. I installed 4 new Nokian 225 70 R 15 C 112 - 110 S(which means carrying a load 2337 - 2469 lbs.), model WRC3 tires. They are Load D rated, mud and snow. $175 each. Nokian only makes about 5000 year.

I wasn't thrilled with the first set I had. They developed dry rot at 35,000 miles so I got a new set. That second set had one of four wear at a faster rate than the others. The passenger steering tire was scalloping on the outer edge by the time I replaced it I had gone 15,000 mile since I first noticed a pull to that side. The technician found a loose inner tie rod arm. All has been replaced and realigned. 4 tires made at the same time of year in 2017.

I wanted to find something else but I have to admit in going with Nokians I knew I'd feel secure and not waste time searching and guessing. I've never had a flat with them, have maxed out the weight limits, ok over gravel, I've had very good handling and tracking on very wet roads, in wind and on wet grass, even fairly good in snow. I hope this new model lasts longer.

KGB Pilot125
10-18-2017, 03:19 AM
Update: The second set of Nokian tires I had on my truck lasted 42,000 miles/ 3.5 years. I looked for new 15" tires to find there are less choices now then 4 years ago. I installed 4 new Nokian 225 70 R 15 C 112 - 110 S(which means carrying a load 2337 - 2469 lbs.), model WRC3 tires. They are Load D rated, mud and snow. $175 each. Nokian only makes about 5000 year.

I wasn't thrilled with the first set I had. They developed dry rot at 35,000 miles so I got a new set. That second set had one of four wear at a faster rate than the others. The passenger steering tire was scalloping on the outer edge by the time I replaced it I had gone 15,000 mile since I first noticed a pull to that side. The technician found a loose inner tie rod arm. All has been replaced and realigned. 4 tires made at the same time of year in 2017.

I wanted to find something else but I have to admit in going with Nokians I knew I'd feel secure and not waste time searching and guessing. I've never had a flat with them, have maxed out the weight limits, ok over gravel, I've had very good handling and tracking on very wet roads, in wind and on wet grass, even fairly good in snow. I hope this new model lasts longer.

I wanted to get those too but there are none in Colorado, I ended up getting the Rotiva AT in the 235/75R15. I really like that my speedometer is now correct.

zurvan7
10-30-2017, 12:23 AM
I wish to go with Rotiva AT in the 235/75R15 E Load for my 03 Sprinter 118 but some Sprinter owners in the first thread below have issues with rubbing and none of them has load over 1500-1800 lbs. None of them sure if they would scrape top of the wheel well when fully loaded or not fully loaded but over bums might scrape but some of them dont have any problems at all and they super happy with Rotiva AT in the 235/75R15. So confusing and risky to get these Rotivas, it might work or it might not work for me. If I get some bigger load it might rub or scrape.... I went to Discount tire to ask and it shows in red Do not install it will rub somewhere so it is not 100% fit for sure. That bothers me a lot.
https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40523&page=8

https://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8907&page=6

I guess I better stay with original and recommended size LT225/70R 15C D Load which is enough for my 03 118 GVWR 8550 lbs . Nokian WRC3 tires are too expensive but seems they have cheaper version T429236 Nokian C Line Cargo 225/70R15C D/8PR 112-110S for about 130 bucks. Anyone tried these? Thank you

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V8KT3KY/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I17PBC6YMEVB3N&colid=1I0DPF816PJQV
https://www.nokiantires.com/summer-tires/nokian-cline-cargo/

zurvan7
11-01-2017, 05:03 PM
I wanted to get those too but there are none in Colorado, I ended up getting the Rotiva AT in the 235/75R15. I really like that my speedometer is now correct.
Do you put in heavy loads in? How much weight you have inside? Thank you

zurvan7
11-01-2017, 05:27 PM
It does not fit unless almost deflated, airpump needed


Do you put in heavy loads in? How much weight you have inside? Thank you

NelsonSprinter
11-02-2017, 12:01 AM
Do you put in heavy loads in? How much weight you have inside? Thank you

I had full loads 8500 pounds pulling 5000 pounds with the Nokian Rotiva AT and since they are a higher load rating and weight rating 116E than the original 110D 225/70R15 it should handle heavy loads.

Why?
Is it even possible to fill a 118WB with 2500#-2800# of cargo to make full load? Do you only carry car batteries?

zurvan7
11-02-2017, 03:25 AM
I had full loads 8500 pounds pulling 5000 pounds with the Nokian Rotiva AT and since they are a higher load rating and weight rating 116E than the original 110D 225/70R15 it should handle heavy loads.

Why?
Is it even possible to fill a 118WB with 2500#-2800# of cargo to make full load? Do you only carry car batteries?

Thank you for replying. Thats good there is no rubbing or scraping with Nokian Rotiva AT which was my concern if they fit in rear wells under full load . Now they cost 100 bucks per tire

100 cinder blocks (2 pallets) each 28 lbs = 2800 lbs. I thought I can carry more then that. Up to 3400 lbs. Is it right? Thanks

autostaretx
11-02-2017, 04:02 AM
Is it even possible to fill a 118WB with 2500#-2800# of cargo to make full load?
It's easy... just repeat my mistake of asking a potter "Do you want me to pick anything up along the way?" and have him answer "a pallet load of clay".

I compromised on a 1500# half-pallet.

--dick

zurvan7
11-02-2017, 05:02 AM
Thank you guys

billintomahawk
03-09-2019, 02:20 AM
Super tire, free shipping.
Mount and balance around $15 each.

Just put 1500 miles on a new set, floats down the road, precise handling.
Straight as a string in the very heavy rain.
Decent on snow.
Lifetime re-balance, rotation and warranty.
Problems? Replace at any Walmart Automotive.

Walmart

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hankook-Optimo-H724-P235-75R15XL-Tire/17792288?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227015527261&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40839100352&wl4=pla-78652451072&wl5=1015150&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=17792288&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsqW71Iv04AIVj1qGCh1D9QqNEAQYAyAB EgLvZPD_BwE


bill in tomahawk

autostaretx
03-09-2019, 02:56 AM
Just as a note, that Hankook (https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Optimo+H724&partnum=375SR5H724XLW) is an XL 4 ply, 2183 pound rated tire. Max pressure 50 psi. 720 turns per mile.

The original Goodyear Cargo Vectors were D (6 ply), 2470 pound rated. Max pressure 65 psi. 732 turns per mile

The 4 Hankooks do add up to 8720 pounds, thus exceeding the Sprinter's 8550 GVW rating.
Your speedometer will be more accurate.

The lower pressure may be part of the reason for the feeling of "floating" (instead of jaw-breaking roughness)

--dick

Cheyenne
03-09-2019, 09:43 AM
The 4 Hankooks do add up to 8720 pounds, thus exceeding the Sprinter's 8550 GVW rating.

--dick

But what about individual axle ratings?

I fear your rear axle rating may exceed 4,366 lb!

Keith.

autostaretx
03-09-2019, 07:01 PM
The rear axle rating for a 2500 is 5360 pounds

--dick

Cheyenne
03-09-2019, 07:57 PM
But what about individual axle ratings?

I fear your rear axle rating may exceed 4,366 lb!

Keith.

The rear axle rating for a 2500 is 5360 pounds

--dick

So on that basis Bill's Hankooks are not suitable.

Keith.

billintomahawk
03-10-2019, 03:26 AM
Thanks to all for the comments.

I called Hankook before installation to confirm what you have posted for weight recommendations and I agree that the tires are marginal.
But I reasoned this way.

My top speed is 65 mph on a crowded Interstate, 60 mph when traffic is limited. 55 mph on the two lanes.
When I checked the tires for heat buildup it was not present using the palm of my hand for temperature testing.
My total camper build out is well under 1000 lbs, probably more like 400-600 lbs. road ready. i carry 40 lbs. of water, two trolling motor batteries and a 20 lb. propane tank(And a bed, tools, spares, stove, frig, pots, pans, clothes and electronics.) (No co-pilot!).

Running the tires at 42 psi is well within the suggested comfort pressure spec'd by MB and Hankook although Hankook would rather see 50 psi if higher speeds or ambient temps are to be sustained.

My total weight does not exceed 8720 lbs.(Probably more like 7000 lbs.)
I am light in the back but the rig feels balanced underway, in fact solid without harshness and quiet.
I am more concerned about the front tires.

What am I missing?

bill

autostaretx
03-10-2019, 06:00 PM
I'm a fan of "make reasonable choices based upon your own parameters" (with a dash of: "if you're wrong, try not to damage *other* drivers").

Our all-up weight (measured on a scale in the middle of a trip) is about 5600 pounds. (fuel tank near 1/2, so add 80 pounds).
Call it 5700. (if memory serves, the rear axle was 2600 pounds)
Even in a full panic stop, i probably wouldn't have over 4400 pounds on the front axle.

As a member of the under-supplied 15 inch club, i'm seriously considering the Hankooks.
The rough edge of potholes or poor railroad grade crossings are a concern.
I'm also looking at moving to 16 inch wheels.

The Sprinter's Body Builders Info Guide (various copies/years at http://diysprinter.co.uk/reference ) has a page or three on calculating CG (hence weight distribution) shifts due to various factors. Even the NCV3's method can be used to calculate T1N's dynamics.

--dick

lightwave
03-10-2019, 06:11 PM
I recently purchased Nokian highway tires for my 118wb at walmart 15 inch. 65lb rear pressure.
so far so good

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2006 2500 118wb standaard roof 241,000 fun miles