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tab380
09-07-2007, 08:07 PM
The dealer just confirmed. The ASSYST can not be reset by the owner. The Owners Manual Procedure on page 234 WILL NOT WORK. When having the 10,000 mile service done, tell the service technician to reset the ASSYST with the Star Computer.
The service tech told me that the 10,000 mile service dose not normally use the Star computer unless a malfunction is reported.

gerrym51
09-07-2007, 08:20 PM
The dealer just confirmed. The ASSYST can not be reset by the owner. The Owners Manual Procedure on page 234 WILL NOT WORK. When having the 10,000 mile service done, tell the service technician to reset the ASSYST with the Star Computer.
The service tech told me that the 10,000 mile service dose not normally use the Star computer unless a malfunction is reported.

so your saying that if you change your own oil, or go to
someone other than a Sprinter dealer, ASSYST is useless?

Now that does seem like an MB ripoff

gerry:thumbdown:

tab380
09-07-2007, 11:02 PM
I sure all modern car and truck mechanics have the computer to check codes.:thinking:

tab380
09-07-2007, 11:07 PM
so your saying that if you change your own oil, or go to
someone other than a Sprinter dealer, ASSYST is useless?

Now that does seem like an MB ripoff

gerry:thumbdown:

Not only that, but if you don't reset it, the screen will show a Malfunction warning every time you start the truck:bash:

SprinterUSA1
09-07-2007, 11:32 PM
Hi guys,


so far I have been told that you need the Star Diagnostic system to reset the Assyst. Takes about 15min.

Assyst is not a rip of even if you have to see a dealer after your own oil change since it is just a warning tool so you do not forget to do it. Kind of lame though that it cannot be reset on board.


SprinterUSA1

gerrym51
09-08-2007, 12:41 AM
Hi guys,


so far I have been told that you need the Star Diagnostic system to reset the Assyst. Takes about 15min.

Assyst is not a rip of even if you have to see a dealer after your own oil change since it is just a warning tool so you do not forget to do it. Kind of lame though that it cannot be reset on board.


SprinterUSA1

if they charge you for it , its a ripoff

gerry:thumbdown:

jdcaples
09-08-2007, 08:31 AM
For those that don't know, behold: The StarSCAN tool's order form.

-Jon

gerrym51
09-08-2007, 11:01 PM
For those that don't know, behold: The StarSCAN tool's order form.

-Jon

jon,

its 4500.00 dollars !!!!!:idunno:

Altered Sprinter
09-09-2007, 01:11 AM
jon,

its 4500.00 dollars !!!!!:idunno:
Gon-grads Jerry
Now you know why! they are half price sprinters:smilewink:
Everyone's gonn'a pay and pay:bounce:
Richard

jdcaples
09-09-2007, 08:56 AM
jon,

its 4500.00 dollars !!!!!:idunno:

Yes, it is. That's why I was interested in the "Sprinter Diagnostic Assistant," which should be considerably cheaper and competent at many common tasks that the StarSCAN performs... but at this writing, SDA doesn't support NCV3 vehicles.

StarSCAN is a priced for businesses, not do-it-yourselfers or backyard mechanics. I figure that the price will come down over time. I also think that aftermarket alternatives are nearly inevitable.

I just think it's important to point out exactly what it means - in dollars - to say, " you need the Star Diagnostic system to <do something>"

"...requires StarSCAN," means, "you need to cough up a lot of cash, or be inconvenienced by making an appointment with a human that owns a StarSCAN."

... and that is down-right mean, esp if it's not possible to reset ASSYST w/o it.

-Jon

bigblueox
09-09-2007, 11:08 AM
Yesterday a.m. I had my 10000 mile service at a local dealership. I didn't realize the service schedule now mandates the changing of the fuel filter at every oil change. It seems very excessive. On my previous sprinter I changed it at 30k. When I owned a VW golf tdi it was supposed to be changed at 40k. I was under the impression these Ncv3 vans had longer maintanence intervals than the previous generation. Perhaps it is a USA only situation to ensure the dealers get paid. At $240 per 10000 miles they will be making more than double what it cost to maintain my previous sprinter. :crazy:

tab380
09-09-2007, 02:26 PM
Yesterday a.m. I had my 10000 mile service at a local dealership. I didn't realize the service schedule now mandates the changing of the fuel filter at every oil change. It seems very excessive. On my previous sprinter I changed it at 30k. When I owned a VW golf tdi it was supposed to be changed at 40k. I was under the impression these Ncv3 vans had longer maintanence intervals than the previous generation. Perhaps it is a USA only situation to ensure the dealers get paid. At $240 per 10000 miles they will be making more than double what it cost to maintain my previous sprinter. :crazy:

I just had mine done and they did not change my fuel filter.
1 FILTER EN 9057006 5175571-AA 10.45 = 10.45
1 GASKET DR 9001004 5073946-AA 0.96 = 0.96
12 OIL 5W30 1081090 68001334-AA 7.59 = 91.08
LABOR 17.46 = 17.46
TOTAL 119.95
Labor seemed reasonable.:thumbup:

talkinghorse43
09-09-2007, 02:26 PM
Fuel filter interval changed for the '06 model. Seems excessive to me too. I still change my '02 every 30k miles. Can't be for fear of passing contaminants since a dirty filter does a better job than a clean one. Maybe to prevent the high pressure pump from being starved for fuel and resulting high pressure pump damage?

mean_in_green
09-09-2007, 05:31 PM
Although I don't know it for certain, I'd be surprised if Assyst can't be reset manually.

tab380
09-09-2007, 07:54 PM
Yesterday a.m. I had my 10000 mile service at a local dealership. I didn't realize the service schedule now mandates the changing of the fuel filter at every oil change. It seems very excessive. On my previous sprinter I changed it at 30k. When I owned a VW golf tdi it was supposed to be changed at 40k. I was under the impression these Ncv3 vans had longer maintanence intervals than the previous generation. Perhaps it is a USA only situation to ensure the dealers get paid. At $240 per 10000 miles they will be making more than double what it cost to maintain my previous sprinter. :crazy:

Can you post your itemized bill so we can see what each item and labor was for your 10,000 mile service?:bow:

verojohn
09-10-2007, 12:01 AM
Well that just sucks! I changed my oil at 5,000 miles myself (Used Mobil One 0 W40)and the stupid thing has been warning me that it needs changing. I'll be mad if I have to take this thing down to the dealer to have him turn off the stupid warning at every start! I'm sure they'll charge and I'm sure they'll make me wait a long time........

gerrym51
09-10-2007, 02:47 AM
Well that just sucks! I changed my oil at 5,000 miles myself (Used Mobil One 0 W40)and the stupid thing has been warning me that it needs changing. I'll be mad if I have to take this thing down to the dealer to have him turn off the stupid warning at every start! I'm sure they'll charge and I'm sure they'll make me wait a long time........

verojohn,

tell us what you really think.

gerry:bounce:

bigblueox
09-10-2007, 11:23 PM
Here is what I was charged on my 10000 mile service...

labor = 107.58
parts = 43.92
g.o.g = 77.35
misc = 11.76
tax = 7.88

what was done to van -

oil/filter change
rotate tires
replace fuel filter
courtesy check

parts used -

5175571-AA filter en 9057006 $ 13.60
5073946-AA gasket dr 9001004 $ 0.62
5175429-AB filter fu 14029003 $ 29.70
13.2 qts Mobil 1 0W40 synth. $ 5.86 unit = $ 77.35

That is it...checked the service book...page 7 does in fact state the fuel filter is supposed to be changed every 10000 miles. When I asked the mechanic about it he was equally in the dark as to why the change was made to the service schedule. :idunno:

gerrym51
09-11-2007, 04:24 PM
Well that just sucks! I changed my oil at 5,000 miles myself (Used Mobil One 0 W40)and the stupid thing has been warning me that it needs changing. I'll be mad if I have to take this thing down to the dealer to have him turn off the stupid warning at every start! I'm sure they'll charge and I'm sure they'll make me wait a long time........

verojohn,

just imagine how you'll feel at about 100,000 miles when
they tell you its time to replace the DPF at
a cost of $1600.00 plus installation.

gerry:idunno:

verojohn
09-12-2007, 11:31 PM
verojohn,

just imagine how you'll feel at about 100,000 miles when
they tell you its time to replace the DPF at
a cost of $1600.00 plus installation.

gerry:idunno:
If it needed it, I would change it, no biggie! To have to drive to the dealer to have them charge me $189.00 (that was Dodge's quote to me...) to do the oil that takes one of my guys 15 minutes and the parts is ridiculous.

verojohn
05-19-2010, 03:05 AM
I'm happy to announce I'm trading in this 2007 Sprinter tomorrow for a new 2010. The 2007 was just OK...let's hope the bugs are worked out on the 2010...I'll give em one more try; only because it is a comfortable vehicle to drive :bash:
Too bad I never made the 100,000 miles Gery was talking about but, I do have about 60,000 miles on this, in "hard driving service vehicle" experience. Never changed the DPF but, the "Service Engine" light has been on since about a month into service and the dealer was never able to get it to turn off...

Now....do I want to try this new "Blue Efficiency" thingie....:thinking:

sunshine
05-19-2010, 08:52 AM
Wll I'm confused. Last week I changed the oil and filter in my 2009 FL sprinter at 1900 miles after the break in cycle. After, I followed the Assyst Reset procedure from the forum here. It did reset and now shows 10000 miles for the next service which is correct. Maybe I'm not reading the post right.

wayneskid
05-19-2010, 01:33 PM
Wll I'm confused. Last week I changed the oil and filter in my 2009 FL sprinter at 1900 miles after the break in cycle. After, I followed the Assyst Reset procedure from the forum here. It did reset and now shows 10000 miles for the next service which is correct. Maybe I'm not reading the post right.

Hi Sunshine! Has something changed with the '09 model? My '08 FL Sprinter calls for the first oil change at 10,000 miles! It seems like a lot of miles to me but that's what the book says!

sunshine
05-19-2010, 08:17 PM
Hi Wayneskid, I have always on all the new vehicles I have purchased changed the oil after the recommended engine break in procedures in the owners manual. The onan unit as well after the 1st 25 hours. And yes from now on it is every 10000 miles or 2 years whichever comes first.

Sunshine IN TN

donblume
05-19-2010, 10:05 PM
Sunshine,

I too am confused, what I have read on the forum, many owners state that one should NOT do first oil change before 10,000 miles because it has special break-in oil and needs to be in engine during that period. Is perhaps the 2009 different? Are we not reading that you may have already had the first oil change?

Don

kmessinger
05-19-2010, 10:53 PM
Each time you reset the ASSYST it will show the next service due in 10k miles. Doesn't matter when you actually did the service. It only matters when you reset the ASSYST.

Changing the oil before the manufacturer's recommendation is up to the owner. I stick to the manual.

Regards,

Keith