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jditom
05-22-2007, 05:06 PM
I arranged to let John (Upscale Automotive) have my W. View for a weekend while I attended a conference in Portland. This was so John could drive, measure and access a 2008 V6 compared to the 5 cylinder models.

Got there Friday and was impressed with John and his spotless shop. I spent 5 hours Friday night with him going over all aspects of the new design. He took off the air breather, installed a power module, found the fuel filter, and explained so much to me at the same time. We examined the suspension and drove it. Below is what we learned.

Driving and suspension. (Johnís impression)
More torque, quieter engine a nice improvement, inside cab is wider and redesigned dash gives one much more leg room and usable space. Underneath wheel base length is longer which effects ride in a positive way.
Suspension is stiffer and better feeling than older ones.

Modifications! Will older suspension upgrades work on 2008? NO!
The shock length, sway bar and springs are all different so John will have to redesign all of these for us 2008 owners. He feels that he will probably make the spring assist and sways beefier and not need air bags which are no longer an option on 2008ís. I would love to add Koni shocks a beefier sway bar to mine and possibly spring assist in the future!

Engine!
Turbo resonator has been redesigned and looks beefier see pic.
Engine fuel filter is in a different location and needs to be changed every 10,000 miles. It is located in the front center of the Engine. You need to take off the whole air breather and a plastic cover off the engine and it is there, see pic.
Air breather is different size than before so John will redesign these as well.

Power model!
The diesel power module that John sells from Germany is also designed to work on the V6. It gives 20% more HP/torque to a 5 cylinder. He asked me if I wanted to try it. I replied with a grin O Yea! We drove it and both loved it. Smooth increase in power. John says it feels even better on the V6. So I bought one and drove a 120miles on Sunday into a hard head wind. I love the extra power and at times I took the module off to see how it affected the mpg (with a Scan gauge II). I was getting about 1 mpg better with the power module in a strong head wind. I will do some more testing this week and report back.

That is all for now!

John
Eugene Oregon
2008 24J

Pics, sorry they are small!
1. Air breather off, engine cover off, fuel filter in center, TR on the right.
http://image.boompa.com/images/users/j/jd/jditom/rides/dsc00560-154_525.jpg

2. Engine, right side, close up of the TR.
http://image.boompa.com/images/users/j/jd/jditom/rides/dsc00561-187_525.jpg

3. Rear suspension, 2 springs not 3.
http://image.boompa.com/images/users/j/jd/jditom/rides/dsc00565-110_525.jpg

SprntrStkd
05-22-2007, 05:12 PM
How can i get my hands on a power module or get a hold of John? I want one!

Thanks for the informative post!

jditom
05-22-2007, 05:32 PM
How can i get my hands on a power module or get a hold of John? I want one!

Thanks for the informative post!


Here ya go!

Johe mentioned that the module gets better mpg as you tax your engine. So if you are towing or have a heavy Winni view in a head wind. I have to do more studies to see how it performs. But the out of seat fun driving factor is great and if I can get better mpg! That is cake:rad:

http://www.upscaleauto.com/

BaywoodBill
05-22-2007, 06:16 PM
I just ran a search and didn't find anywhere we had discussed what impact it might have on the warranty if we install one of these modules.

:idunno: Any idea?

jditom
05-22-2007, 07:15 PM
I just ran a search and didn't find anywhere we had discussed what impact it might have on the warranty if we install one of these modules.

:idunno: Any idea?

Like any engine mod if caught you run the risk of no warranty coverage.
The module just unplugs so you can take it off before you go to the dealer.
But if you blow a turbo and the dealer sees it I suspect he would not cover you.
Bottom line, you play at your ouw risk.
I must say that if you read the data on the Diesel power module is sounds super safe since it just adjusts the fuel pulse rate etc. Only one parameter is changed. Other forms of ECU chips etc usually adjust several factores like boost pressure, air/fuel mixture, timing etc. This does not. See below!

What is TUV certification and what does it mean?


TUV certification involves rigorous testing of the applications for which the component is designed. It includes verification that the device satisfies the strictest European regulations for the industry in which the component was designed for and ensures the component specifications are stated correctly. Periodic retesting of the component is required to maintain TUV approval and the certification is without question the most comprehensive testing any product would undergo. In the case of a tuning module, TUV approval means the product complies with legal exhaust-emissions standards.

TUV testing of a tuning module includes:

Verifying the use of quality materials in the manufacture of an automotive product.

Emissions standards are similar to the original manufacturers standards.

No danger in the fit or use of the product.

Verifying that stated power and economy figures are accurate and are not misleading.


Diesel Power CR and PD modules have also attained the E-1 certification which verifies that the tested component does not damage or conflict with any other component on the vehicle.

All Diesel Power tuning products are TUV and E-1 certified!

Or read more!
http://www.upscaleauto.com/diesel_power_module.htm

jdcaples
05-22-2007, 09:47 PM
Jditom,

Thanks for the fantastic write up and the pics! You've given me a lot to think about.

-Jon

BaywoodBill
05-23-2007, 03:35 PM
Like any engine mod if caught you run the risk of no warranty coverage.
The module just unplugs so you can take it off before you go to the dealer.
But if you blow a turbo and the dealer sees it I suspect he would not cover you.
Bottom line, you play at your ouw risk.


Thanks for the information and all the detail about your visit to Upscale. I'll be thinking about all you've written before my visit Portland in September.

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SprntrStkd
05-23-2007, 08:49 PM
$575 + shipping & comes with an installation guide.....cheaper than a set of alloys....hmmmm....

jditom
05-24-2007, 02:29 PM
$575 + shipping & comes with an installation guide.....cheaper than a set of alloys....hmmmm....


I helped John install mine and it is a plug and play.
The electrical port on the newer 5 cylinders is a piece of cake.
10 minute job.
Six cylinders, it is in the left rear cam so you have to take the air breather and engine cover off which take about 15 minutes=30 minute job total for a V6!