Redline fluid options ....D4 or D6 - Sprinter-Forum

Aircraft Wrench · 01-17-2009, 09:20 PM

I'm going to service my NAG1 shortly on my 2006 SHC 2500....Sik used the D4 fluid so that spurred me to check tech data from Redline to see what specs that fluid might meet....I saw the info on the D6 and was impressed with the stability compared to D4....I notice currently a definite difference in RSN when it is very cold (-10f) vs +65F...so I'm thinking perhaps the D6.....

I've attached the Redline info sheet....

Aqua Puttana · 01-17-2009, 10:52 PM

Can't help with your answers, but I do have some questions.

I don't know how anyone really figures this out being that even the Crossfire/Sprinter Dodge fluid has gone three generations that I know of and you don't want the early version anymore. Is the price difference that much better Redline vs. OEM? I know the OEM stuff is way expensive. It hurt me to buy it even with a discount of sorts.

I didn't see any Mercedes Benz spec references in the Redline data sheet. Maybe I missed them.

Aircraft Wrench · 01-18-2009, 12:10 AM

The reference I found is at the bottom of the document...

pgr · 01-18-2009, 11:42 AM

I used the D4 on my '04 and it didn't make the rumble noise go away (only feel it when cold), in fact, it is probably more noticeable now but as soon as the engine gets up to operating temp it does go away.

I would try the D6 or the MBZ stuff not the G4 if I were you.

pgr

rlent · 01-18-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aircraft Wrench

The reference I found is at the bottom of the document...

I didn't see any claim that it meets a MB spec - just that it was "recommended for use in", which is no doubt Redline's recommendation, not Mercedes ....

jdcaples · 01-18-2009, 04:07 PM

There are two camps.

One follows the letter of the law in the owners manual.

The other considers it a "guideline," not a law.

Like smokers vs non-smokers, figure out which one you are and be happy about the choice.

-Jon

hoyt · 01-19-2009, 04:35 AM

The service manual for my '04 says that the transmission should be filled with Mopar ATF +4 or type MS-9602 type transmission fluid. Redline ATF C+ say that it is a replacement for ATF +4 and type 9602 fluid.

That is the fluid I have been considering using instead of the OEM stuff. Is there a reason you are passing up the ATF C+ from Redline??

--John

rlent · 01-19-2009, 08:42 AM

Is that a MB/Chrysler service manual - or a 3rd party one ?

Aqua Puttana · 01-19-2009, 12:21 PM

As I said earlier it seems MB makes this more complicated than I would imagine.

As to the Mopar ATF +4 for the NAG1 transmission, when I went to my local Dodge dealership for ATF for my 2004 the guy brought out Mopar ATF +4. I commented that I thought there was a specific type for the Sprinter. He went back to the computer, apologized and then brought out a bottle of Crossfire/Sprinter fluid. I don't think Mopar ATF +4 meets the MB specs, but I haven't researched it. Hope this helps.

hoyt · 01-19-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlent

Is that a MB/Chrysler service manual - or a 3rd party one ?

This is from the factory manual on CD.

--John

01-17-2009, 10:52 PM	#2
Aqua Puttana Poly - Thread Finder Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Falls of Niagara, USA Posts: 8,431 Thanks: 3,112 Thanked 3,352 Times in 2,215 Posts	Re: Redline fluid options ....D4 or D6 Can't help with your answers, but I do have some questions. I don't know how anyone really figures this out being that even the Crossfire/Sprinter Dodge fluid has gone three generations that I know of and you don't want the early version anymore. Is the price difference that much better Redline vs. OEM? I know the OEM stuff is way expensive. It hurt me to buy it even with a discount of sorts. I didn't see any Mercedes Benz spec references in the Redline data sheet. Maybe I missed them. __________________ NAFTA 2004 OM647 140 2500 Std Roof >255,000 mi. Paint=Arctic Whitewash DAD "My opinion and worth everything you'll never pay for it." is expressly implied. Keeping me on topic will be as successful as herding cats. Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm. Publilius Syrus "There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't." HaWiiLuVeR Some people have 10 years experience, others just 1 year 10 times.

01-18-2009, 12:10 AM	#3
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pgr Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Durham NH Posts: 1,470 Thanks: 371 Thanked 211 Times in 157 Posts	Re: Redline fluid options ....D4 or D6 I used the D4 on my '04 and it didn't make the rumble noise go away (only feel it when cold), in fact, it is probably more noticeable now but as soon as the engine gets up to operating temp it does go away. I would try the D6 or the MBZ stuff not the G4 if I were you. pgr

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jdcaples Not Suitable w/220v Gen Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA - USA Posts: 8,305 Thanks: 1,132 Thanked 2,758 Times in 1,577 Posts	Re: Redline fluid options ....D4 or D6 There are two camps. One follows the letter of the law in the owners manual. The other considers it a "guideline," not a law. Like smokers vs non-smokers, figure out which one you are and be happy about the choice. -Jon __________________ 2007 F/Liner 2500 Cargo Van, 144" WB, 3.92 Rear Axle Ratio, Buttons on the Steering Wheel, Contractor Package, Heated glass and seats, no spark plugs or windows in the cargo bay. US Tech info: http://www.sprintertekinfo.com US Parts info: http://epc.startekinfo.com (Subscribe to world passenger car and light transport) Americans may learn to use MB technical resources and parts information here: http://www.sprintertekinfo.com/epcdemo/start.swf

01-19-2009, 04:35 AM	#7
hoyt Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Redline fluid options ....D4 or D6 The service manual for my '04 says that the transmission should be filled with Mopar ATF +4 or type MS-9602 type transmission fluid. Redline ATF C+ say that it is a replacement for ATF +4 and type 9602 fluid. That is the fluid I have been considering using instead of the OEM stuff. Is there a reason you are passing up the ATF C+ from Redline?? --John

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rlent Join Date: May 2008 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 1,260 Thanks: 57 Thanked 145 Times in 106 Posts	Re: Redline fluid options ....D4 or D6 Is that a MB/Chrysler service manual - or a 3rd party one ?

01-19-2009, 12:21 PM	#9
Aqua Puttana Poly - Thread Finder Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Falls of Niagara, USA Posts: 8,431 Thanks: 3,112 Thanked 3,352 Times in 2,215 Posts	Re: Redline fluid options ....D4 or D6 As I said earlier it seems MB makes this more complicated than I would imagine. As to the Mopar ATF +4 for the NAG1 transmission, when I went to my local Dodge dealership for ATF for my 2004 the guy brought out Mopar ATF +4. I commented that I thought there was a specific type for the Sprinter. He went back to the computer, apologized and then brought out a bottle of Crossfire/Sprinter fluid. I don't think Mopar ATF +4 meets the MB specs, but I haven't researched it. Hope this helps. __________________ NAFTA 2004 OM647 140 2500 Std Roof >255,000 mi. Paint=Arctic Whitewash DAD "My opinion and worth everything you'll never pay for it." is expressly implied. Keeping me on topic will be as successful as herding cats. Anyone can hold the helm when the sea is calm. Publilius Syrus "There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't." HaWiiLuVeR Some people have 10 years experience, others just 1 year 10 times.

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