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Old 09-29-2008, 09:15 PM   #1
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2006 158 2500HD what anti-freeze should I run. They say the Mopar anti-freeze "orange" in color??? I heard that stuff is hard on gaskets? any help would be great.
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:04 PM   #2
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Default Re: antifreeze?

It's my understanding that "color" is no longer a good means of determining the proper antifreeze for any given vehicle.

Here's an outtake from the service manual:
DESCRIPTION - HOAT COOLANT
WARNING: ANTIFREEZE IS AN ETHYLENE-GLYCOL
BASE COOLANT AND IS HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED
OR INHALED. IF SWALLOWED, DRINK
TWO GLASSES OF WATER AND INDUCE VOMITING.
IF INHALED, MOVE TO FRESH AIR AREA.
SEEK MEDICAL ATTENTION IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT
STORE IN OPEN OR UNMARKED CONTAINERS.
WASH SKIN AND CLOTHING THOROUGHLY AFTER
COMING IN CONTACT WITH ETHYLENE-GLYCOL.
KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN. DISPOSE OF
GLYCOL BASE COOLANT PROPERLY, CONTACT
YOUR DEALER OR GOVERNMENT AGENCY FOR
LOCATION OF COLLECTION CENTER IN YOUR
AREA. DO NOT OPEN A COOLING SYSTEM WHEN
THE ENGINE IS AT OPERATING TEMPERATURE OR
HOT UNDER PRESSURE, PERSONAL INJURY CAN
RESULT. AVOID RADIATOR COOLING FAN WHEN
ENGINE COMPARTMENT RELATED SERVICE IS
PERFORMED, PERSONAL INJURY CAN RESULT.
CAUTION: Use of Propylene-Glycol based coolants
is not recommended, as they provide less freeze
protection and less corrosion protection.
The cooling system is designed around the coolant.
The coolant must accept heat from engine metal, in
the cylinder head area near the exhaust valves and
engine block. Then coolant carries the heat to the
radiator where the tube/fin radiator can transfer the
heat to the air.
The use of aluminum cylinder blocks, cylinder
heads, and water pumps requires special corrosion
protection. Mopart Antifreeze/Coolant, 5
Year/100,000 Mile Formula (MS-9769), or the equivalent
ethylene-glycol base coolant with organic corrosion
inhibitors (called HOAT, for Hybrid Organic
Additive Technology) is recommended. This coolant
offers the best engine cooling without corrosion when
mixed with 50% ethylene-glycol and 50% distilled
water to obtain a freeze point of -37C (-34F). If it
loses color or becomes contaminated, drain, flush,
and replace with fresh properly mixed coolant solution.
CAUTION: MoparT Antifreeze/Coolant, 5
Year/100,000 Mile Formula (MS-9769) may not be
mixed with any other type of antifreeze. Mixing of
coolants other than specified (non-HOAT), may
result in engine damage that may not be covered
under the new vehicle warranty, and decreased corrosion
protection

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Old 09-30-2008, 01:04 AM   #3
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2006 158 2500HD what anti-freeze should I run. They say the Mopar anti-freeze "orange" in color??? I heard that stuff is hard on gaskets? any help would be great.
'06 owner's manual says (p301):

EURO Peak Coolant/Anti-freeze, OLD WORLD INDUSTRIES
Zerex G05, The Valvoline Company
Zerex G48, The Valvoline Company
Glysantin G05, BASF AG
MOPAR Part No. 05066386AA, or equivalent

all meeting MB spec 325.0
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Old 09-30-2008, 07:00 PM   #4
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'06 owner's manual says (p301):

EURO Peak Coolant/Anti-freeze, OLD WORLD INDUSTRIES
Zerex G05, The Valvoline Company
Zerex G48, The Valvoline Company
Glysantin G05, BASF AG
MOPAR Part No. 05066386AA, or equivalent

all meeting MB spec 325.0
I got the Mopar stuff and it's black. Like they said, color doesn't tell.
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Yes I know the thread is old...

Took a second to find this stuff: Valvoline Zerex G05

I checked many auto parts stores, but ended up finding it at NAPA. It was in the back of the store and had to ask for it.

$11.30

I am guessing that is much cheaper than the dealership would charge for the Mopar product.

Just FYI for anyone trying to find this particular brand.

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Default Re: antifreeze?

Last I checked, the part number was 5066386AA for a gallon of HOAT antifreeze from a dealership and the price was over $20.00 USD.

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Old 09-08-2009, 06:09 PM   #7
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Default Re: antifreeze?

AVL,
I found the same situation and ended up at NAPA also. The places like Advance Auto, Auto Zone, etc. that didn't carry any GO-5 coolant were pretty insistent that the "all color" stuff they had was good for the Sprinter. They may be correct, but I have read where using the wrong coolant in our engines can affect the gaskets? For that reason I see no need to experiment with other than the recommended GO-5. Then again, who knows? AP/vic
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Yes I know the thread is old...

Took a second to find this stuff: Valvoline Zerex G05

I checked many auto parts stores, but ended up finding it at NAPA. It was in the back of the store and had to ask for it.

$11.30

I am guessing that is much cheaper than the dealership would charge for the Mopar product.

Just FYI for anyone trying to find this particular brand.

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Default Re: antifreeze?

I know this thread is old but I have a question about the antifreeze in my T1N.
I bought it used and it currently has green antifreeze of unknown type. I bought a gallon of the Mopar antifreeze from the Dodge dealer and it is orange. No idea if I can mix it, but guessing not.
Coolant reservoir is full, just bought some to have on hand.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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It's not advisable to mix coolants as to the same with brake fluids.
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Default Re: antifreeze?

Guys its about knowing what is your OATS and HOATS!

The secret is knowing about the fact that water that makes up about 50% of coolant is hard in Europe and softer in North America, hence it is less critical for NAS Sprinters.
However erring on th safe side I use the Zerex product prevously mentioned.
Here is a good fact sheet to study.
http://www.recycool.net/index.php?op...icles&Itemid=7

In any case for those of you who have Asian vehicles, they too after 1994 went progressively to a HOAT coolant but its a crimson/pink colour.
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