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Old 12-31-2012, 01:17 AM   #1
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Default TIRES.

I have a 118" 2006 2500.

It's got it's second pair of tires (225/70r15) continental Vancos. 12,000 miles old. about 5/16" to 3/8" of tread ...

I am currently getting stuck in 1" of mud on dead-level ground.

There seem to be _no_ other tires (than the Vancos) available.

I want an aggressive tire, but every tire shop I go to sends me away saying either nothing in the 15" size is load rated ...

Can anyone give some advice? We currently have ice/snow on the ground and the Sprinter is absolutely immobilized.

I am open to getting 16" rims, but really have no idea of where to start.

Any and all advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Phil
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:20 AM   #2
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Try a diffent tire store! Michellen M+S come to mind.

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Old 12-31-2012, 01:46 AM   #3
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Icarus!

Thanks for responding. I've been to several shops. Even the mom and pop shops won't sell me anything besides a 7 ply (or 5 ??? I forget) 225/70r15 ... of which there is only one available in the USA!

Tire rack . com only gives one tire for the 2006 2500 sprinter. (vanco by continental)

Can I change tire sizes? Should I find some 16" rims ... since there are tons of load rated tires in 16" here in the US?

Thanks for the help!
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:47 AM   #4
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Default Re: TIRES.

I can't rave enough about Toyo H/T tires. The last set was at about 100k before I replaced them, mainly due to feathering on the front. I had them aftermarket siped where I bought them at a Les Schwab in central Oregon, which made them cling to any slick surface. Probably only tire stores in snow country will have siping available. I was getting stuck in my Mom's driveway, flat, packed snow; with the Michellen LTS tires. Had the Toyo's put on and it was like I had 4wd. Again, siping is the key. The current tires, Firestone, are about the same as the LTS for traction; got stuck in the same driveway just a few weeks ago (I have those instead of new Toyo's because they were a gift/tax write-off on one of my brother's tire shop accounts). This tire shop did not offer siping, they mainly deal with commercial vehicles.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:52 AM   #5
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Surly,

Are those 15s or 16s you have? And are the tires "load rated"?

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Old 12-31-2012, 02:23 AM   #6
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woodgraain,
Suggest you take a look at the Nokian WR C Cargo tires.
They are available in your original size, and they come very highly
rated for ice/mud/snow traction.
Looks like the are already "siped" in the mold.
Here's a link:
http://www.nokiantyres.com/tyre?id=1...ian+WR+C+Cargo
These seem to be rated plenty heavy for the allowable loads in a 118" WB Sprinter T1N.
P.S. Buy the tires from one of the online retailers, but do not tell them what vehicle they
are going to be installed on to get around the mom/pop safety mentality.
Remember, you need to determine the GAVW for your little 118" wb Sprinter when thinking about tires.
You cannot use the generic Dodge/Freightliner weight rating as yours is significantly less.
These tires are rated:
225/70 R 15 C 112/110 (115N) S Cargo which is a Euro Rating for commercial tires....the "C" is NOT USA Load Range C.
Hope this helps,
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:30 AM   #7
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Default Re: 15" TIRES.

Where in the world are you ? Do you haul a trailer?
Are you ever filled up to 8500# or are you a lightly loaded 118" to 6000# ?
Are you using for personal or commercial purposes? Do you have to get a Safety inspection every once in a while?
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:37 AM   #8
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sailquik,

my specs:
tire (nameplate) is 225/70r15c
GVWR: 8550 lbs
GAWR: 3860 lbs. (front)
GAWR: 5360 lbs. (rear)

EDIT: NEVER EXCEED WEIGHT (CARGO + PASSENGERS) is 3660 lbs (1660 kg).

I have been told repeatedly that these are "7 ply" "9 ply" (etc.) tires with an "E" load rating.

If (say) I was looking for rear tires, could I say each needs a 'never exceed' rating of 5360lbs / 2 = 2680 each ?

Thank you for your help. So far the tire professionals have been most unhelpful.

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Old 12-31-2012, 02:38 AM   #9
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Nelson,

I will occasionally put 2000 lbs in the back. Usually used as a grocery-getter and for carting <800 lbs of tools around.

I am due for an inspection but I have never seen my tires looked at besides for tread-depth.

Can I just buy some 16" rims and then have more options? Or does this open a can of worms?

Phil
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:52 AM   #10
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More info on options in this thread : http://sprinter-source.com/forum/sho...&highlight=118

Many have changed to 16" rims, but I've found some 15" D and E load rated tires
my next tires will be long lasting Mud & Snow Nokian Rotiiva AT with size LT 235/75R15 116E
but not sure if these will fit in your 118" wheelwells because of a 28.8" diameter tire instead of a 27.4" diameter tire
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