Replacing center high-mounted stop light

grozier

Active member
Our Westy passed its annual inspection under the condition that we correct a flaw: the LED third brake light, or CHMSL, did not function 100%.

The lamp is affixed to the van via two M5 nuts in rubber grommets. These were in pretty poor shape on our van due to a lot of sun exposure, and I stupidly lost one inside the top anyway. (Where it goes when it drops in there is anyone's guess.)

I had a tough time figuring out what these nuts are. They are called well nuts or blind insert nuts. I bought these: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blindnietmutter-Well-Nut-M5-Blindsteckmutter-/251618300858 but similar ones are available in the US: http://www.ebay.com/bhp/m5-well-nut.

The ~10mm holes in the van are slightly too large, but a little tape inside the fiberglass snugged everything up nicely. I suppose you could also use a drywall anchor and Sikaflex...

I paid 65 Euros for the lamp: http://www.campingplus24.de/Elektro...leuchten/Jokon-Zusatzbremsleuchte-Aufbau.html You can easily switch the plastic surround, so you don't have to worry about getting a black one.

Some pictures below. Water got into ours and wrecked some of the connections. They "potted" the whole thing so it's not user-serviceable, I'm afraid.

Ted
 

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grozier

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One more, showing the new lamp and white surround, which you can swap.

This lamp is called a Jokon ZHBL 03, should you ever have to get one.
 

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OldWest

2004 T1N Westfalia
Thanks for info. Good to have name of stoplight.

When I first got Westy, the third stoplight became loose during first year or so. Don't remember, but maybe took to a Dodge or Airstream dealer who said screws were weird (think they were figure 8 or like two triangles with points touching). They "fixed" by putting caulk around screws as couldn't be tightened. The fiberglass top isn't that thick so only small screws seem to hold (like for tank 360 siphon and other little vents, Fantastic Fan, TV antenna).
 

OldWest

2004 T1N Westfalia
What looks bettter--black, white or painted body silver for stop light surround? So many choices?
 

grozier

Active member
Because I reused the surround, I have a new white one as spare.

Would anyone like it? I'll just charge shipping -- $4 to the U.S. Send me a PM if interested.

Ted
 

Pnwsquid

Active member
Wanted to open this conversation on Sprinter-source, as I find it easier to search.

Did anyone in the USA figure out how to source a Jokon ZHBL 03?
 

mogul2us

Member
Hi Ted,

How are you? This is funny as a couple months ago I removed the high-mount stoplight to run a new wire for a new backup camera...and, like you, lost one of the weird rubber-grommeted nuts to who-knows-where below. Used a drywall anchor and RTV silicone to fix. Seems fine. And the backup camera (works in conjunction with a Garmin Dezl GPS) also works excellently.

mogul2us (aka Dick H)
 

grozier

Active member
Hi Dick,

All fine here in Berlin. Leaves are almost all down and the nights are dark, but the van runs well. I need to troubleshoot the engine Espar before we set off for Scotland over Christmas.

Best regards,

Ted
 

OldWest

2004 T1N Westfalia
James Cook Friends Forum has a thread on replacing the third stoplight. The thread has links (one link takijg you to a webpage part referring to Westfalia) and a different part number which could.be used to search generally. Need to double-check this is same Jokon part which Ted found.

http://forum.james-cook-freunde.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5406

https://www.campingplus.de/Elektro-...leuchten/Jokon-Zusatzbremsleuchte-Aufbau.html

https://www.amazon.de/Jokon-23365-LED/dp/B0013DZ1XO

The two shopping links go to lights with listed slightly different dimensions.

This website has Ted's reference Jokon ZHBL 03 matching part number 23365 in James Cook Friends thread.

https://www.camping-kaufhaus.com/jo.../a-23365/?UseLayout=farbfinal_mobile_20150729
 
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ECU

2006 T1n 118 Sprinter
There's at least four nuts in my van from replacing the upper light. No idea where they are.
 

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