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It had to happen after six and a half years, the rear differential seal gave way with weapage being too evident.
The van has had a tough life off road due mainly to the obsolete Bridgestone tires, that offer zero traction off road on high inclines and switchbacks. I ran a schematic up on Wis data For major assembly MD: 741408 7 0388 28 Group:35-Rear Axle, to source part numbers, bearing in mind I have not as of yet pulled the seal down to inspect what needs to be replaced?. Nothing is simple with Sprinters, replacing a seal may not be the correct remedy as to ware and tear on the parts on the in-line shaft backing up to the crown and pinion. The problem is without a tear down I will not know what is in need of replacement. ![]() diff 002 (Custom).JPG
As Parts are now an issue. I'm not 100% confident if I have the exact numbers right neither was MB for that matter after back checking with Parts department.![]()
Hypoid Oil MB sheet 236 A 001 989 27 03 12 This is the tricky one, the only oil I can find quick smart is MB sheet 235.8 last two digits 10 it's a lighter grade=sedans and I'm not sure if it can be used as a top up oil that is comparable with the OEM oil currently in the differential housing it is low. Originally I was happy for my dealership to do this repair, until no return phone calls three of as to [A] a ball park figure for tear down and inspection to advise on what parts were required to commit to the repairs. I'll do it my self after I re purchase a couple of 4000 lb jacking stands my 2000KG stands look very marginality inadequate , Me under 2.5 T Not unless I feel safe.Tools one seal remover and bearing puller that's next on my List for Monday. I'm curious as to part NO 601 351 00 72 Nut 300G if it had originally been penned over the locking key tab on the spline! or left not penned ..? I'm too old for this crap. Out comes the transvestite: ![]() DSC00802(3) (Custom).JPG Richard
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dont panic tricky
real easy fix check your e-mail cheers chris
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Hello God of MB fraternity the savior of our forum
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I figured you can leave the bearings alone and just replace the seal. The only issue I can think of is if the old seal left a groove on the shaft. I'd be curious to see what you come up with
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Currently I have weapage on the pinon seal, and there is oil in the diff down 1/2' inch at best. It's the weekend I have the original MB Hypoid oil but it may be degraded it's 4 years old ..so I wont risk putting it in as a top-up to an unknown viscosity level.? Replacement oil that match are Castrol Long life MGO 75800025 no stock in Hobart. until either I jack the back up and or put it on a hoist I do not know what is damaged inside of the spline, at best I will only require to replace nut and rear Ring pinon seal, slack adjustment if present? on testing will reveal that two spacers can be used 5.24 or 5.26 or ultimately all parts may or will be required to be re-placed, I need to remove and measure the shaft and visually inspect the spline.29-07-2011 10;27;363 (Custom).jpg
29-07-2011 10;27;36 (Custom).jpg 29-07-2011 10;27;362 (Custom).jpg my option is to inspect and simply the replace the nut and pinon seal, but I'm prepared to replace the entire kit.... I won't know until I put it up on the lift. I'll do this at Mercedes! let them sort it out. If and then, more work is required I'll buy the tools and parts and do it myself. First path is to drain oil and filter out any particles such as metal being viable that's the key to any metal parts being damaged. part number.jpg A replacement Crown and pinion is RETAIL AU$1600 dollars from MB Australia plus labor plus parts ![]() I can do better dollar wise. and this is a worst case scenario. Richard
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Why do you have to replace the crown & pinion when its a blown $4 seal
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We need to keep Richard around... and I don't mean to kick around, either. -Jon PS: Seriously, how many kilometers are on the odometer?
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![]() Not a lot by U.S standards but 200 thousand K's almost. I have a busy week just researching arranging the first set of parts as a temporary fix, if the oil shows metal. After going through Fluid spec check listings... MB Transmission fluid Manual 75-80W full syn can be used MB A 001 989 26 03 10 as a top up ..I have some. I'll use it till the parts arrive. 1.8 Liters of MB sheet 335.6 /335.8 MB A 001 989 27 03 12 ..I have not looked at the specs in it's entirety as of as of yet. OE manufacture Hypoid oil Commercial oil ...Liqui Moly Differential... HYP 85W-90 Stock available Hobart. After running a break down on archive sheets looking at a Borg Warner differential as a comparison. Bingo I hit the jack pot ![]() Part one as a reference only"
diff bw 002 (Custom).JPG At least the universal joint's are replaceable. diff bw 004 (Custom).JPG Parts in line almost identical to MB of which allows for two speed seals if yolk bore is out of true Part Number MB 56 allows for a speed seal. And MB Part 68 of which slides back into MB Part 71 can incorporate a speed seal if required. diff bw 003 (Custom).JPG Looks OK to Go!... Once parts arrive, for a visual tear down. diff 002 (Custom).JPG Catch 22 How much whip lash beyond OEM tolerances is there on the main pinon if any.. Time will revival. I dam well hope there are Markings provided,to use as a guide?diff bw 005 (Custom).JPG All this panic over a dam Penguin and a Seal. But nothings Black or White. As I have a need to check the NCV flange to see if it can be retrofitted back onto the Tin and use the lock down bolt tabs.. this will be interesting may need Chris to help me out, if my dealer does not have the part in stock. ![]() Richard
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