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zlee2
04-15-2007, 04:40 AM
Hello, my Sprinter van has stalled three times at highway speeds recently.
Can anyone give me some idea on the likely cause of the problem?
I'm a gasoline engine tech, so I have very limited knowledge on diesels, but feel free to go as technical as possible.
Thanks.
Altered Sprinter
04-15-2007, 05:05 AM
Stalling Sprinter
not much info Codes etc? fuel related maintenance?
Try these links until the Docktar arrives.
Richard
Light-Duty Diesel Diagnosis (http://www.aa1car.com/library/diesel.htm)
How to maintain the engine (http://www.samarins.com/maintenance/engmain.html)
Diagnosing Fueling Problems (http://www.blackclouddiesel.com/Tech/Injectionproblems.htm)
abittenbinder
04-16-2007, 02:35 AM
Hello, my Sprinter van has stalled three times at highway speeds recently.
Can anyone give me some idea on the likely cause of the problem?
I'm a gasoline engine tech, so I have very limited knowledge on diesels, but feel free to go as technical as possible.
Thanks.
Being a "gasoline engine tech" I'm sure you would ask for more details if a customer came to you with this scant info regarding a tech-laden modern vehicle. If you haven't been to the dealer for diagnostic checks-kindly provide MORE details. Doktor A
jdcaples
04-16-2007, 03:43 AM
Hello, my Sprinter van has stalled three times at highway speeds recently.
Can anyone give me some idea on the likely cause of the problem?
I'm a gasoline engine tech, so I have very limited knowledge on diesels, but feel free to go as technical as possible.
Thanks.
I see... a red.... a red box, a big box made of metal - it's a chest of drawers - with silver handles on each drawer... too small, too shallow for socks or clothing.... and it's not sitting in the bedroom... it's on a floor and the floor is made of .... concrete? I don't understand that part at all...
The rest of vision is cloudy and fading... but I feel the spirits are telling me that....
that it has something to do with fuel
... or air
starvation....
That's all I'm getting.....
zlee2
04-16-2007, 04:10 AM
Being a "gasoline engine tech" I'm sure you would ask for more details if a customer came to you with this scant info regarding a tech-laden modern vehicle. If you haven't been to the dealer for diagnostic checks-kindly provide MORE details. Doktor A
Do you know if this van is OBD-II compliant? Is there a service manual on the web in .pdf format?
zlee2
04-16-2007, 04:14 AM
I see... a red.... a red box, a big box made of metal - it's a chest of drawers - with silver handles on each drawer... too small, too shallow for socks or clothing.... and it's not sitting in the bedroom... it's on a floor and the floor is made of .... concrete? I don't understand that part at all...
The rest of vision is cloudy and fading... but I feel the spirits are telling me that....
that it has something to do with fuel
... or air
starvation....
That's all I'm getting.....
It can be restarted. You still think it's something to do with air or fuel starvation?
zlee2
04-16-2007, 04:18 AM
Stalling Sprinter
not much info Codes etc? fuel related maintenance?
Try these links until the Docktar arrives.
Richard
Light-Duty Diesel Diagnosis (http://www.aa1car.com/library/diesel.htm)
How to maintain the engine (http://www.samarins.com/maintenance/engmain.html)
Diagnosing Fueling Problems (http://www.blackclouddiesel.com/Tech/Injectionproblems.htm)
Have you ever retrieved codes from the van yourself? how did you do that?
Are you referring to fuel filter change when you said fuel-related maintenance?
zlee2
04-16-2007, 04:21 AM
So none of you has never heard or read about high-speed stalling problem of this van caused by some mechanical or electrical issues?
Altered Sprinter
04-16-2007, 04:29 AM
Hi No I'm not a mechanic,Andy can say exactly how to solve a problem in my case My Submission's are based on a given fact most Diesel mechanics don't have enough training! or time, due to the shortage of Qualified Mechanics world wide, so I learn the basics and why they can fail, along with a basic solution, you end up learning An awful lot, that has it's uses. Be patient with The Doctor he will reply in time, Andy just likes to do things the correct way.
Sorry about the light hearted fun it's just that we are a really friendly and helpful forum. but fun and games amuse us along the way.
PDF for helping towards your requests
Richard
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Altered Sprinter
04-16-2007, 04:49 AM
So none of you has never heard or read about high-speed stalling problem of this van caused by some mechanical or electrical issues?
zlee2
Modern Diesel engines can be very frustrating as to the many but simulated problems a gas engine of today can encounter, it's either electronics which a code error!'Which will show" or Its ignition of fuel or mechanical failure in most cases it is fuel and oil related, generating a high speed stall but also due to non maintenance or improper maintenance Human error or by a Tech, failing to pick up the problems, beforehand.
High speed stall can indicate as many reasons, but we need more specific information to help.
• Turbo engines (http://www.samarins.com/maintenance/engmain.html#turbo)
Richard
abittenbinder
04-16-2007, 04:11 PM
Andy can say exactly how to solve a problem Be patient with The Doctor he will reply in time, Andy just likes to do things the correct way.
Richard
1651
I rarely respond to "help me diagnose this problem" postings. It's not because I'm anti-social. First, owners often leave out important clues and facts that tend to make a "online" diagnosis a wasted effort. Second, the Sprinter is a modern, complex, hi-tech laden, wonder machine and often requires diagnostic intervention with very expensive and sophisticated diagnostic equipment. Knowledgeable group members have often helped save a desperate owner the trip to the repair shop- with advise regarding partially clogged fuel filters, air filters and the like. But for many problems (especially for warranty covered vehicles), a trip to the workshop is called for-where a trained technician armed with a DRBIII will help expedite a diagnosis before any lasting damage is inflicted. It's not just about reading P codes. The properly trained Tech is armed with an impressive array of system tests that can only be performed with factory tools and equipment. Doktor A
chaozz
04-17-2007, 12:38 AM
and lets not forget a parts room at his disposal
to throw parts at it when all else fails:laughing:
abittenbinder
04-17-2007, 01:30 AM
and lets not forget a parts room at his disposal
to throw parts at it when all else fails:laughing:
LOL. Can you imagine what went on before DC identified causes of common failure of components such as the turbo resonator? Component failures that generate vague DTCs. I'll bet lots of turbochargers were tossed in the recycle bin. Doktor A
Scott_Mc
04-17-2007, 01:12 PM
... owners often leave out important clues and facts that tend to make a "online" diagnosis a wasted effort. ... Doktor A
Exactly. Leave out or forget or don't notice....
Do you know if this van is OBD-II compliant?
OBD II? I'm not a mechanic either, but isn't OBDII pre-`96?
OBD III (beyond OBDII),
Usual list of (many, but NOT complete) common reported problems like this:
turbo resonoator leaking/splitting (sometimes dies, and often goes into limp home mode, low speed only unless downhill, no real boost, runs starved for fuel so the turbo does not wind up)
leaking/loose turbo hoses/clamps
plugged air breather
fuel filter in need of replacement
fuel pump, booster pump, injector pump problem
bad mass air sensor
bad temp sensor
bad injector
two bad injectors
bad EGR
Mis-matched tires (will shut down to limp home due to stability errors that the system perceives).
Z... you should get the picture so far that the possibilities without more codes and/or many more details about behavior of the vehicle are not enough...
To be quite truthful, a sticky vent valve in the fuel cap can be enough to turn on a code that shows as a dash lite for "check engine".:thinking:
More info and preferably codes... many autoparts stores in Oklahoma will let you use their OBD tool in the parking lot (if it fits)... without a deposit most of the time if they can hold your Drivers Licsense, or go out and help you hook it up... they usually have time because they WANT to sell you parts identified as bad.
KenB:cheers:
Phil Grabbe
12-19-2010, 05:51 PM
I had a similar problem. I traced it to the ECM relay socket in the steering column fuse box. I removed the fuse box, took the cover off, tightened the contacts with a needle nose pliers, and put it all back together.
It was dying almost every time we drove it up till this fix, and it has been 3 weeks and it has not died since.:bounce:
Hope this helps.:smilewink:
pyramidhvacr
12-19-2010, 06:22 PM
Change torbo resantor to aftermarket and ck hose for.leaks or splitting
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