View Full Version : Coming soon to a (CA) SMOG Check Station near you
sikwan
11-25-2009, 05:00 AM
In six weeks...
The DMV will begin mailing notices to motorists who own diesel-powered vehicles subject to the program in January, 2010, for registrations due in April. However, change of ownership and out-of-state inspections will be required starting on January 1, 2010. Unlike gasoline-powered vehicles, there is no six year exemption on diesels included in the Smog Check Program.FAQ (http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/FAQs%20for%20Diesels%201-8-09_GC.pdf)
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/DieselWorkInf.html
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I like how they modified their Cummins to spew out particulates just to make a point. :frown: Now every non-diesel owner is going to think that all diesels are like this. Morons!
More money that I now have to pay. :thumbdown:
jdcaples
11-25-2009, 04:56 PM
It looks like a SNAP test may be part of the evaluation.
Washington State does this in some counties..... Notably King County.
The website draft document (http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/DieselTestProceduresVer5.pdf) about diesel engine inspection seems more gentle (2000-3000 rpms) than Washington's.
In my last van was subject to a SNAP test every two years. The WA emissions SNAP test amounted to idling for a few minutes, with the transmission selector in (P)ark, then the you stomp on it for how ever long the tech says to keep it at govenor speed.... the resulting plume of smoke is measured for opacity. 40% was a failure. I blew a mid-20 value with 200,000 miles on the odometer on straight number 2 diesel in 95F degree weather, all original equipment. Once I did it with 5 gallons of B99 and managed to blow a 2% value.
I forgot about SNAP tests until this posting...... at least in that van, stomping on it made soot happen, big time.
-Jon
cedarsanctum
11-25-2009, 05:15 PM
In Oregon, for now at least, the weight rating of our van makes it exempt from DEQ testing. All i have to do is send in a form.
Jef
minigoogoo
11-25-2009, 05:48 PM
For a '2500', exempt by 50 pounds GVWR I believe? 8550 on the van vs. 8500 for the Oregon cut-off...
I wonder if this is a coincidence or by design? I wonder if other states have similar cut-offs?
:thinking:
shanemac
11-25-2009, 06:34 PM
Every hopped up diesel truck i see around hear is blowing smoke out just like that, but then again a lot of transit buses blow there fair share too and big rigs oh what about the local motive trains too.... wonder if Bully Dog products/banks has anything to say about this:laughing:
Now every non-diesel owner is going to think that all diesels are like this. Morons!
Agreed, it is ironic there blasting the black death cloud out of that monster exhaust while at the same time are preaching how it will kill people:shifty:
david_42
11-26-2009, 04:55 PM
Once I did it with 5 gallons of B99 and managed to blow a 2% value.
Good to know if Oregon ever starts checking. I can get this down in Corvallis.
Knew a guy in Southern California that would run 25% ethanol in his van to pass the emissions test. He'd run it almost dry, then add 5 gallons of the mix before getting the test.
jdcaples
11-26-2009, 05:55 PM
Good to know if Oregon ever starts checking. I can get this down in Corvallis.
Knew a guy in Southern California that would run 25% ethanol in his van to pass the emissions test. He'd run it almost dry, then add 5 gallons of the mix before getting the test.
That's exactly what I did. I also only did tests in the hottest times of the year, becasue the test results are good for 6 months or something like that. I'd have done worse in the winter. A Power Service additive also reduces the smoking.
I think Washington SNAP tests are really unfair. No one floors it in a standing position - ok, only a few people would do that - but the test reflects extremely rare circumstances. It tries to provide a glimpse of the potential for belching particulates, unburned fuel, soot, whatever, and penalizing the owner for the results.
It's not real world.... it's worst case scenario. Taking it up to 3000 RPMs and holding it for 10 seconds, measuring the opacity after 10 seconds, for maybe 20 seconds, would be closer.
-Jon
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