ADS Announces a Group Buy Discount for its popular Sprinter Diagnostic Assistant

[Adsinc100]

ADS, Inc. and its European partner N.V. ADS (S.A.) are pleased to announce our SDA-Sprinter Diagnostic Assistant as a standalone commercial application. The SDA is a diagnostic system that offers coverage and features comparable to Star Diagnosis, and the Dodge DRB/StarScan for Sprinter vehicles, but designed to run on a standard Windows XP PC or Laptop. Technical capabilities include read/erase fault codes, live data streams, component tests (manual/automatic), diagnostic assistance, and component/ECU coding functions.

The design of the program is very user freindly, and features an easy-to-use, graphical interface that includes training and help documents for each important feature. This system has been available to large scale fleet users, for the past few years, and have about 3000 installations worldwide, with over 1000 in the US with UPS alone. Our aftermarket version for smaller fleets and individual users, their SDA - Sprinter Diagnostic Assistant V1.0, is now available for a US retail price under $2500, which is less than half of the price of the DRB3. All worldwide versions of Sprinters (MB, Dodge, Freightliner) from 1994-2006 are completely covered for all powertrain, chassis, body, HVAC, and safety systems. The current version is available in English, with Spanish, French, German, Italian, and Dutch versions to follow by end of second quarter. The 2007 Sprinter has been added to our OEM version and will be added to the SDA later this year.

Full product specifications and an online flash demo can be found on our website: http://www.sprintersoft.com

Check out the GROUP BUYS section for details about our special pricing for the month of March

[sikwan]

Adsinc100:

I moved your thread to the For Sale section, because it's not really considered a group buy (I'll move it back if others think otherwise).

http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=817

Thanks for the discount. It is much appreciated it!

Seek

[chaozz]

so is this like mitchell or alldata just for the sprinter?

[Adsinc100]

While we have some of the technical features of Mitchell and Alldata in our diagnostic assistance sections, the SDA is really a comprehensive diagnostic tool. We provide the user with a means to read/erase fault codes, see live data from the vehicle, replace ECUs and code them, as well as automated and manual component activations and tests.

This product is specifically designed for Sprinter, and as such, covers all the vehicle systems.

[Therberg]

Will this unit be able to eliminate the speed limiter presently set at 83 ?
Also would you be able to reprogram the ECU to achieve the same results as a "power chip" ?
Thank You
Tim H.

[chaozz]

While we have some of the technical features of Mitchell and Alldata in our diagnostic assistance sections, the SDA is really a comprehensive diagnostic tool. We provide the user with a means to read/erase fault codes, see live data from the vehicle, replace ECUs and code them, as well as automated and manual component activations and tests.

This product is specifically designed for Sprinter, and as such, covers all the vehicle systems.

so this is more like the snapon Modis?

[chaozz]

Will this unit be able to eliminate the speed limiter presently set at 83 ?
Also would you be able to reprogram the ECU to achieve the same results as a "power chip" ?
Thank You
Tim H.

your van is equip with the top speed limiter?

[Therberg]

Yours isn't ?

I am fairly certian that all US Sprinters are limited to 83.

The DRBIII scan tool will allow you to set the limit lower but it will not let you set it above 83.

FedEX limits their sprinters to only 70 and they remove the ASR switch because the drivers would turn it off and with there jack rabbit starts would spin the rear tires alot and were tearing the rear ends out.

Tim H

[Adsinc100]

Our product is more like Star Diagnosis and less like the Snap-On Modis. For the Sprinter, the Modis is basically an overlay of generic OBD2. For the Sprinter, only the engine and transmission are partially OBD2 compliant. As an example, a Sprinter with the later OM647 engine has approximately 3000 fault and event codes that it could store. Only 63 of these codes cross with OBD2.

OBD2 devices, like the Modis, provide only part of the picture and lead to needlessly replacing parts. Since OBD2 codes only register for something that will turn on the check engine light, that may be examining the "effect" not the "cause" for a problem. What often occurs is that a part is replaced, the code that turned on the check engine light is cleared, so the light goes off, but the cause for the failure is still present, so the same code will return.

For the top speed, we do offer this programming capability for both OM647 and OM612 engines.

As for the same results as chipping, no. Our products are for diagnosis and do not modify the engine in a manner that may violate the clean air act.

We have seen that chipping the engine can cause more harm than good due to the low cetane ratings of US Diesel fuels. In Europe, the cetane ratings are usually a minimum of 53-56, with some newer "premium" diesel fuel as high as 72. In the US, fuels average 43-45, with "premium" rated at a paltry 50. The minimum cetane rating for a diesel engine to actually run is 38, so US fuels leave little margin there.

Cetane is similar to octane in that the higher the cetane rating, the shorter the ignition delay. If the chip was designed for European fuels, then the ECM is having to constantly adapt the fuel and timing curves to compensate for lower quality fuel, and this may cause some undesired effects and increase wear. Until the US gets serious about diesel technology, the best way to insure that a CDI engine performs at its peak is to maintain it properly.

[chaozz]

Yours isn't ?

I am fairly certian that all US Sprinters are limited to 83.

The DRBIII scan tool will allow you to set the limit lower but it will not let you set it above 83.

FedEX limits their sprinters to only 70 and they remove the ASR switch because the drivers would turn it off and with there jack rabbit starts would spin the rear tires alot and were tearing the rear ends out.

Tim H

i know when i bought it there was a option to have 74mph as
the top speed.
i dont recall if i have ever tried to go past 80
but now that you brought this up..Tomorrow i have a little mission
how fast can my sprinter go....:D

[kkanuck]

You will be humbled at 83 MPH........guaranteed!!!

Thanks for trying though......let us know.....

[sikwan]

Tomorrow i have a little mission
how fast can my sprinter go....:D

Make sure you have other means of monitoring the speed, ie. GPS. The speedo reads higher by about 3-5mph once it gets up in the 60-70s.

Let us know what you find. :smirk:

[chaozz]

but no matter what tester you use ...all of them only point you into the
direction of the problem.and thats where years of experience kick in.

[Altered Sprinter]

Make sure you have other means of monitoring the speed, ie. GPS. The speedo reads higher by about 3-5mph once it gets up in the 60-70s.

Let us know what you find. :smirk:

i know when i bought it there was a option to have 74mph as
the top speed.
i dont recall if i have ever tried to go past 80
but now that you brought this up..Tomorrow i have a little mission
how fast can my sprinter go....:D

Man are you on a mission to paradise!
Wann'a take a ride on a high-way to Hell! you'll be in knocking on heavens doors at 100 P/H
MWB 313 CDI does 175 KLM per hour
First rule disconnect ABS and ELC control and speed limiter, or you won't make the grade.
Ready Buckle up,
Flip the CD to paradise by the dash board lights, and press de' pedals to da' metal and be like Richard Go man GO'ooooooooooooo!
I've pm'd this in case chaooz don't live to tell the tale
YouTube - Sprinter-Drift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I_LDvrPzc0&mode=related&search=)
Richard

[Adsinc100]

but no matter what tester you use ...all of them only point you into the
direction of the problem.and thats where years of experience kick in.

This is very true. If the diagnostic system is designed correctly, help files can shorten the learning curve.

[chaozz]

with speedo showing 84 you can feel it hold back from going faster.
might have to cut a hole in the floor board and
do the fred flintstone trick

[Scott_Mc]

The speedo reads higher by about 3-5mph once it gets up in the 60-70s.



Correct me if I'm wrong but this, I beleive is true for ALL us vehicles, not just the Sprinter It's a federal mandate. You'll never see a factory speedo running true. It's high even at lower speeds.

I've bounced off the 83 mark a few times and don't really mind it. Do you really need this tuna can rolling any faster than that? A barrel roll is not my choice of leaving this planet:smilewink:


We have seen that chipping the engine can cause more harm than good due to the low cetane ratings of US Diesel fuels. In Europe, the cetane ratings are usually a minimum of 53-56, with some newer "premium" diesel fuel as high as 72. In the US, fuels average 43-45, with "premium" rated at a paltry 50. The minimum cetane rating for a diesel engine to actually run is 38, so US fuels leave little margin there.


I feel that poorly written (cheap)chip programs are more at fault for issues here. There is far more to "chipping" than simply dumping in more fuel and allowing higher boost pressures.

[sikwan]

Correct me if I'm wrong but this, I beleive is true for ALL us vehicles, not just the Sprinter It's a federal mandate. You'll never see a factory speedo running true. It's high even at lower speeds.

Funny thing is of all the vehicles that I've had, which are not many, the only one that is dead on with my GPS (two of them) is my Chevy S-10. :thinking:

Our Honda Civic, Jeep Wrangler (until regeared), Subaru Forester, and Dodge Sprinter all registered slower compared to the GPS. All of these had the stock overall tire diameters except the Wrangler.

The Forester is the only one I've checked that has a slow speedo, but accurate odometer. I didn't check our old Accord, but I see that Honda just extended their warranties because a lawyer found that his Mazda registered lower on the odometer than his Honda when driving the same route.

I've bounced off the 83 mark a few times and don't really mind it. Do you really need this tuna can rolling any faster than that? A barrel roll is not my choice of leaving this planet:smilewink:

I think it's more of a matter of "can we do it?" Nobody wants to be held back. :bounce:

I never drive that fast (:shhh::smilewink:) because I have priceless articles in tow.

[Therberg]

Only one week left to save $500 on the SDA. Did anybody order one? I have been thinking about ordering but $2000.00 is alot of money for something that may get little to no use,but might prove to be invaluable when stranded many hundreds of miles from any Dodge or Freightliner repair center.

I would really like some feedback on the SDA from someone that has used one. The decision would be much easier if there would be some functionality with other vechiles. I do have limited access to a DRBIII scantool through a friend that is the head tech at the local FedEx terminal, but that does no good when far from home.


Tim H

[Therberg]

After much deliberation :thinking: I decided to pull the trigger and buy for myself the SDA- Sprinter Diagnostic Assistant, a PC based scanner program with the multiplexer box and cables. It is a Sprinter specific program that has all the functionality of A DRB III in a more "affordable" :idunno: and much easier to use and understand package.The package costs $2500.00 so the affordable is some what subjective, For the month of march there was a group buy price of $2000.00

http://www.sprintersoft.com/index1.htm

There is an on- line demo of how the SDA functions, just click around the site and you will find it. Eric at ADS was very knowledgeable about The product and Sprinters in general. He spent much time on the phone answering questions and was not at all pushy about buying the SDA.

With competent dealers and service center few and far between , I wanted the ability to diagnose problems myself, especially when traveling. Besides I am somewhat of a shade tree mechanic and like to tinker with all things mechanical.I have several business associates and friends that also have Sprinters so I hope long term ,the investment might prove useful.

I know that several members on this forum have installed the Scanguage II for reading generic OBDII p codes and for real time data from the ECU, but with 02 and 03 Sprinters they have little functionality.:thumbdown:

I should have the SDA by this weekend and am looking forward to spending some quality time messing around with it.:D


Tim H.

[abd]

is there anyone in Colorado area with the SDA? I'd like to remove the shackle of the speed limiter....
Thanks!
abd